Wings of War

[bmckain]

Its time to sound the klaxons and man the battle stations. If you hadn’t heard Lockheed Martin has decided to levy war on all artists depicting their aircraft or using the designations or names of the aircraft, see article (http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/04/liberate-b-24-liberator).

A lot of us are really ticked about it and the EFF has sent an open letter to Lockheed Martin. We decided to try and do something positive so the Wings of War contest was born. Granted a contest won’t stop Lockheed Martin from being ridiculously silly but perhaps we can draw attention to the situation and by doing so engage more artists and enthusiasts to get involved in the fight and in the process we can have a great time making designs and copy right those designs. I highly encourage all enthusiasts and artits to at least support EFF on this effort and feel free to use this contest as a point of intrest to draw attention to the cause.


The Contest

The premise of the contest it to come up with a company, a logo, a brief history of the company and then design an aircraft, helicopter, VTOL, bomber, transport or what ever you can imagine that would be used in the military land, sea or space based. The design can be drawn from past, present, future or imaginary technology so long as you can make it believable. Any material the entrant can provide in the WIP will help with the points awarded, such as drawings showing the process of finalizing designs, logos and etc. The more complete the WIP the more points will add up.


Voting

Rather than just a straight vote as we have done in the past we will do a combination of points award and voting.

15 points - Create Company and history
10 points – Create Company Logo
20 Points – Create a unique design for a military aircraft
Use believable concepts but need not conform to propeller or jet power. This could be a fighter, bomber, transport or other, pretty much anything that would fly.
20 Points - Build the model
20 Points - Texture the model or have it textured
15 Points - Present it via a still of at least 1600 res
20 Points - Present it in an animation
25 Points - For completion of project on time

Points available – 145

Points will be awarded based on how much of the criteria the artist completed. Each point will count as a vote and will be added to the total votes at the end of the voting. For example if an artist A completed all but the animation then 100 points would be added to his/her final vote. If the artist had done the animation then it would have been 120 points instead.


Prizes

The motivation for participating is going to be worthwhile.

The first place winner in the states will receive a $150.00 Visa gift card that can be used anywhere you choose. If you live outside the US then you will receive a cashier’s check for $150.00 dollars in US funds.

Second place will receive a $75.00 gift card on Amazon or if outside the US a $75.00 cashier’s check in US funds.

Third, fourth and fifth will receive a signed copy of the 3D World issue that highlighted Foundation 3D. Yes, I bought several copies to use as gifts. ;)

All artists will receive a info sheet on how to copyright their work in the US along with all relevant details, links and forms.


When

The contest starts on May 1st and will end on August 29th. All entries must be finalized and submitted on August 29th. Voting will take place the following week starting on Sept 4th and will last for two weeks ending on Sept 18th. Votes will be tallying and winners announced and notified On Sept 19th and all prizes will be delivered the same week.


Who

Anyone can participate including staff, members of other forums or groups however all WIP’s should be posted on Foundation 3D and all entrants must notify us that they are participating. WIP’s should be marked as Wings of War – WIP – (entrants name). You will find a Category for "F3D Contest Entry", use that one so we will be able to search them easily.


What

Any 3D package can be used to create the model and artists may use any applications at their disposal to create the textures, stills and animations and effects. For animations artist may also include sound if they choose but should not use copyrighted music or bytes.


Additional Perks and Possibilities

All work may be considered for Premiere Content at our discretion, meaning that you could have the opportunity to earn additional cash for your work up to an additional $350.00 (US funds).

Artists may also want to consider the possibility of a tutorial as they are building the model. A tutorial could be; designing a Military aircraft, building a design from your own drawings, texturing using a specific app or animating to effects. The rate card for tutorials is $25.00 a page, US Funds, not to exceed 14 pages. Larger tutorials should be outlined and the outline presented before hand. Tutorials should be delivered in word or text format with all images and support materials if applicable. For video tutorials the rate is $25.00 per fifteen finished minutes of video. In all cases F3D has the right to review and approve or refuse material.

And of course those models that either we or the artist does not want to arrange for Premiere content are free to be uploaded to the general resources. For Premiere content the author retains the right to show his/her work on their personal site and else where for the purpose of self promotion. In the case of Premiere content the author must state the item was created for Foundation 3D. If a model is not made available for Premiere content then of course no restrictions apply to the model.

[bmckain]

Zippy (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2315)
Bills - Completed 8/17/08 (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2313)
virtualkey08 (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2311)
Venom (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2340)
TheGreatRaja (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2309)
Bishop (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2307)
Mook - Completed 7/31/08 (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2345)
Reaperman + Jason T
Voidster (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2352)
Delta - Completed 7/31/08 (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2310)
NW5586 - Completed 8/28/08 (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2796)
caricc
Gryshnak (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2302)
Venom (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2340)
Maellenkleth
ALp - Completed 8/29/08 (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2318)
Evolution (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2470)
CrippledPidgeon (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2403)
bmckain - Completed 8/31/08 (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2357)
Morphinus
BAROBA - Completed 8/28/08 (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2332)
ranger (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2370)
Madkoifish (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2317)
Rigel - Completed 7/31/08 (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2341)
youngheart80 (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2349)
bLuTm8
Artificial Imagination - Completed 8/27/08 (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2361)
starship
juland (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2335)
Elowan (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2376)
Malcolm Reynolds (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2380)
Escelce (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2425)
CD2703 - Completed 8/28/08 (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2474)

[BillS]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAA



Runs off to work.

[Zippy]

woot!!! I finally have a project to work on!! :P

[Bishop]

The contest starts on May 1st ...




This is the only part that sucks. :p

[BillS]

Well damn......Ok... I'm not working on it yet then... honest. :D

[Bishop]

Well damn......Ok... I'm not working on it yet then... honest. :D

I know, right? I don't have anything that I desperately wanted to post tonight. Really. Only thing I'm working on is my power plant (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2112)! :D

[DELTA]

I was thinking of a big aerospace company and how much of an AZZ they have become..... :growl:

[bmckain]

ROFL! Om my goodness!

[BillS]

Lmao!

[DELTA]

Is that a gin or vodka martini? LOLOLOL

That would be a Virgin Martini, beaten and humbled .... :waa:

[Rigel]

People, tread lightly. You do not want to do anything that could be construed as slander.

[DELTA]

I know, Was just playing around a bit... Plus I live in Northern Lower Michigan I don't have anything for them to take!!!

[Oscaron]

People, tread lightly. You do not want to do anything that could be construed as slander.


To quote J.J. Jameson in the first Spiderman movie:
"I resent that! Slander is spoken. In print, it's libel." :)


In any case, parody is protected.
"Parody is a usage of a mark that pokes fun at the mark and does not confuse the public as to the source of the usage. In determining whether there is infringement the court balances the public interest in free expression against the public interest in avoiding consumer confusion. "A parody must convey two simultaneous--and contradictory messages; that it is the original, but also that it is not the original and is instead a parody. To the extent that it does only the former but not the latter, it is not only a poor parody but also vulnerable under trademark law, since the consumer will be confused." From Cliffs Notes, Inc. v. Bantam Doubleday Dell Publishing Group, 886 F. 2d 490 (2d Cir. 1989) "

[Oscaron]

I know, Was just playing around a bit... Plus I live in Northern Lower Michigan I don't have anything for them to take!!!

Greetings from Traverse City.

[DELTA]

Greetings from Traverse City.

Greetings from Houghton Lake :) You should know what I am talking about when I said I have nothing to take...

[Oscaron]

Greetings from Houghton Lake :) You should know what I am talking about when I said I have nothing to take...

Lol....It's not THAT bad out there....

Well, the miniature golf courses from the 50's make me sad, but...

If gas gets much higher, TC will have the same issues....$3.70 is a tad much.

[Gryshnak]

If gas gets much higher, TC will have the same issues....$3.70 is a tad much.

In the UK we're paying $8 a gallon :(

So remember, your designs must be fuel efficient!

Gryshnak

[caricc]

Ok, now count me in. Now i just ave to get a new computer since my previous laptop gave up the ghost last week.

Maybe my wife will let me get that one I have been eyeing.......

[Artificial Imagination]

Yeah but you ghave to remember, most of the cars in the UK get above 35/40 mpg, most of the cars in the US are lucky to get above 20 right now.

Right now in Fargo ND we're about $3.39 per gallon. The sooner they stop growing crops to make bio fuel the better, I know it supposed to be better for the environment but all the cost is being passed onto the consumer because the crops that they normally grow are in low quantity and high demand so prices go up which means the cost of transport goes up so fuel prices go up; its a vicious cycle.

Add to that all those damned V6 and V8 engines running around, give me a nice 4 cylinder any day.

I wish I could model a plane the way you guys can though, this sounds like a kick ass competition. I'm slowly learning but this is like going from jumping into the shallows to the high dive.

[bmckain]

Ok, now count me in. Now i just ave to get a new computer since my previous laptop gave up the ghost last week.

Maybe my wife will let me get that one I have been eyeing.......

Added you to the entry list.

[TheGreatRaja]

In the UK we're paying $8 a gallon :(

So remember, your designs must be fuel efficient!

Gryshnak

Well Mine Isn't :) not by a long shot
but maybe make it a hybrid or run off of baby seals or something

[Gryshnak]

I wish I could model a plane the way you guys can though, this sounds like a kick ass competition. I'm slowly learning but this is like going from jumping into the shallows to the high dive.
Well, I'm gonna have a try. I wouldn't know NURBS from nurnies, but I'm gonna throw myself at the learning curve and probably come out of this with more knowledge than when I started - so count me in as well :cool:

Gryshnak

[bmckain]

Well, I'm gonna have a try. I wouldn't know NURBS from nurnies, but I'm gonna throw myself at the learning curve and probably come out of this with more knowledge than when I started - so count me in as well :cool:

Gryshnak

Added you to the list. :)

[3D_CG]

Lets Get er Done...

Made In America...

Here we Come, Full Steam, Yes sir, We gonna Kick a little tail, yes sir.

Count me in, BIG TIME...

Michael

[TheGreatRaja]

So how long is the animation supposed to be?

[bmckain]

So how long is the animation supposed to be?

That is entirely up tp you. Go with what ever works for you?

[BillS]

yipeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mook]

Well laddies, I wish you all the best of luck, and enjoy yourselves doing it!
Also, I wish that I'll beat you all, but I think we can discount that as a possibility...! :p
Seriously though, good luck and have fun!
Cheerio,
Chris

[bmckain]

Well laddies, I wish you all the best of luck, and enjoy yourselves doing it!
Also, I wish that I'll beat you all, but I think we can discount that as a possibility...! :p
Seriously though, good luck and have fun!
Cheerio,
Chris

Indeed! Good luck to everyone and let's be sure to use this as a catalyst to contact our congressional leaders.

[Maellenkleth]

Oh Oh Oh! Count me in please! Mine's going to have racing stripes!:D

[bmckain]

Venom has been added to the list.

[bmckain]

Maellenkleth has just been added to the list. :)

[ALp]

YAY , for this I am IN :) :) :)

[bmckain]

YAY , for this I am IN :) :) :)

Got you on the list.

[bmckain]

Evolution has been added to the list bringing us to 17. This is shaping up to be a promising contest.

As a matter of clarity, we were only keeping the list to make sure we had at least ten entrants. Anyone may enter at any time but it is nice to know ahead of time who is planning on participating. Thanks to all of you who have taken the time to let me know.

[BillS]

damn....... still 2 days to start. :(

Glad there is more taking part though :D

[CrippledPidgeon]

I think I'll join in on this. Haven't had much time to use Lightwave recently, but school's ending, and I've got some designs sitting around that I've been wanting to work on...

[bmckain]

I think I'll join in on this. Haven't had much time to use Lightwave recently, but school's ending, and I've got some designs sitting around that I've been wanting to work on...

Always room for another, got you on the list. :)

[Morphinus]

I'm gonna cover my eyes the next time I hear a plane fly overhead for fear of getting nailed with a "peek-fee" or something!

Count me in! This royally P.M.O.!!!!

Morphinus

[bmckain]

Alrighty then,

The race is on! Good luck to everyone and as a reminder, post your work in the WIP forum using the following title:

Wings of War – WIP – (entrants name)

You will find a Category for "F3D Contest Entry", use that one so we will be able to search them easily.

[bmckain]

I'm gonna cover my eyes the next time I hear a plane fly overhead for fear of getting nailed with a "peek-fee" or something!

Count me in! This royally P.M.O.!!!!

Morphinus

Excellent, you'r on the list.

[cd2703]

This sounds fun. I'm in

[bmckain]

This sounds fun. I'm in

Cool! You're in the list.

[BAROBA]

Planes?
I am in :D

[bmckain]

Planes?
I am in :D

Good to see you back, I'm adding you to the list as soon as I reply.

[Gryshnak]

It's the 1st of May - do we post our ideas here?

Gryshnak
Eager to get started

[DELTA]

Time to get my butt kicked... lol

[bmckain]

It's the 1st of May - do we post our ideas here?

Gryshnak
Eager to get started


Yep, the race is on, post your work in the WIP forum using the following title:

Wings of War – WIP – (entrants name)

You will find a Category for "F3D Contest Entry", use that one so we will be able to search them easily.

[bmckain]

Another entry, ranger was just added to the list.

[Treybor]

Darn it! I have a great idea for an entry, but will not have time to do it...I'm going to Japan agin in May for business.....and trying to finish up an animatic for QMx :(

[Oscaron]

Darn it! I have a great idea for an entry, but will not have time to do it...I'm going to Japan agin in May for business.....and trying to finish up an animatic for QMx :(

Ooh! I have a shopping list for ya Treybor ;)

[bmckain]

Darn it! I have a great idea for an entry, but will not have time to do it...I'm going to Japan agin in May for business.....and trying to finish up an animatic for QMx :(

Can I ride in your suit case?

[Treybor]

Yep.... I'm going to Tokyo.... Again! For a week of business conferences and project meetings. (and maybe some sake in the evenings...)

Oscaron: What kind of shopping list? Not Hentai or Manga I hope...
Bob: Sure, but I don't think you'd fit in my carry on.

[DELTA]

Hay Treybor, you should have time to wip up something when you get back....

[bmckain]

Yep.... I'm going to Tokyo.... Again! For a week of business conferences and project meetings. (and maybe some sake in the evenings...)

Oscaron: What kind of shopping list? Not Hentai or Manga I hope...
Bob: Sure, but I don't think you'd fit in my carry on.

Well then I'm out because me camera wouldn't even fit in your carry on. :p

[ALp]

Done : http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?p=36449

[bmckain]

Ok , here we go

As it seems, several Mokheed Lartin's "Wunk Skorks" engineers have started their own company , called Asymmetric Aerospace. Their goal is to create a Fast AIRlifter that would:

a) easily carry a standard 40-foot container filled with up to 25 metric tons of hardware
b) take off from and land to extremely short airstrips, preferably vertical , but definately STOL (short takeoff and landing)
c) have a low radar cross-section and low emissions if possible
d) be as cheap as possible and use maximum percentage of Off-The-Shelf items in the design.

--- More on this in the Next Post --

Hi Alp,

Please post this in the WIP section using the title indicators outlined.

Here's BillS thread as an example.

http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2313

[ALp]

In the UK we're paying $8 a gallon :(

So remember, your designs must be fuel efficient!

Gryshnak

I doubt with current tech it is possible. I once looked up a russian ZUBR hovercraft. And was amazed when it said in the characteristics that the huge machine that transports up to 3 main battle tanks with their crews , has 3 independent gattling AA guns and moves over water land , sand and snow with the speed of 60+ knots has fuel mileage of 85 GRAMMS of diesel fuel per 100KM...

Be sure, my amazement tuned down when I read in a smallest possible fineprint 3 magic words: "per horse power" :) LOL

[Rigel]

I'm in and have started my W.I.P.

[bmckain]

Got you on the list even though it isn't really necessary now.

[Oscaron]

Yep.... I'm going to Tokyo.... Again! For a week of business conferences and project meetings. (and maybe some sake in the evenings...)

Oscaron: What kind of shopping list? Not Hentai or Manga I hope...
Bob: Sure, but I don't think you'd fit in my carry on.

Hentai? Manga? Surely not. Besides I can download that anytime :p

The electronics, however :crazy:

[bmckain]

I want to thank everyone who has gotten underway on this. 14 of the 24 off are off and running so it looks like it's going to be a fun and exciting contest.

[youngheart80]

Add my name to the list - just posted my WIP. Gads! I thought I'd sworn off modeling till later this year. Oh well... ;)

[bmckain]

Sweet! :D Doing it right now.

[bLuTm8]

The concept around the contest sounds really interesting.

I believe in myself as an artist rather than as a modeller to be able to describe, but I will try a dare.
In the past my self-created models are limited to smaller objects and a bit architecture, but let's see what happened to me this mind.

The limits are broad and time, we have enough..

One question:
Is a fictitious company, which builds space ships, allowed?

[bmckain]

The concept around the contest sounds really interesting.

I believe in myself as an artist rather than as a modeller to be able to describe, but I will try a dare.
In the past my self-created models are limited to smaller objects and a bit architecture, but let's see what happened to me this mind.

The limits are broad and time, we have enough..

One question:
Is a fictitious company, which builds space ships, allowed?

Yes, so long as they are of military benifit, they could be a cargo transport or troop carrier so there is plenty of lattitude.

[bLuTm8]

very cool - thank you
going to assimilate my brain and search my pens

[Artificial Imagination]

Ok, since UAV's are allowed, I'm in, not sure how much I'll be able to do given my schedule now revolves around my baby girl but I'm sure as hell going to try.

SOL Inc will be making their debut shortly.

[bmckain]

very cool - thank you
going to assimilate my brain and search my pens

Ok, since UAV's are allowed, I'm in, not sure how much I'll be able to do given my schedule now revolves around my baby girl but I'm sure as hell going to try.

SOL Inc will be making their debut shortly.

Got you both on the list. ;)

[starship]

Hi Bob!
I would like to participate, but time is a trouble for me... Let´s see if I can get some. :D

[bmckain]

Hi Bob!
I would like to participate, but time is a trouble for me... Let´s see if I can get some. :D

Cool, adding you as soon as I reply to this. :)

[Treybor]

Good Grief! Haven't seen this many entries in a long while!
Very Sweet!

[Artificial Imagination]

LM really pissed off a lot of people, I guess you just need soemthing to get you inspired, cash is a nice incentive too though ;)

This is going to be a good one.

[bmckain]

We no have 19 who have actually started their entries. If you want a birds eye view of all the entires you can choose the category "F3D Contest Entry" from the "Prefix" drop down box. Alternatively here's a link to the search.

http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&f=11&page=1&pp=50&sort=lastpost&order=desc&daysprune=-1&threadprefix=F3D+Contest+Entry

I would like to encourage everyone to check in and leave feedback for the entrants. We're just a week into it and we have about 12 to go.

[Malcolm Reynolds]

Ah what the hey, I'll give it a shot. :)

[bmckain]

Ah what the hey, I'll give it a shot. :)

Sweet, always room for more. :)

[TheGreatRaja]

man i am feeling so out classed...

[BillS]

nah... The field is wide open. Anyone can play inside their comfort zone or "extend your wings" :P a bit and try something new.


Personally ... I'm all about comfort :D

[ALp]

man i am feeling so out classed...

nah... The field is wide open. Anyone can play inside their comfort zone or "extend your wings" :P a bit and try something new.


Personally ... I'm all about comfort :D

I second that , Bill :)
And I just remember that someone posted the intention to release the contest works as general public content on the forums ... do not remember who and where , but I am all up for that, obviously as long as copyrights are respected

P.S. and Raja , if you can get Bill Flemming's books on photorealism , you may find some good rules and techniques there. I read each of them more than once and each time it helps to pick new angles on modeling. I hope other people will say the same about them :)

[bmckain]

HI all,

I just added links for everyone who has started their entry in post #2. It's an easy index if you just want to click and view.

[Zippy]

Looks like I'm gonna have to drop out of this one. My computer died rather decisivly on saturday. Not sure when I'm going to have a computer up and running that can run Lightwave.

[bmckain]

Looks like I'm gonna have to drop out of this one. My computer died rather decisivly on saturday. Not sure when I'm going to have a computer up and running that can run Lightwave.

That is a real bummer. Maybe something will work our for you.

[Artificial Imagination]

Bob, I have a question.

When it comes to the animations do we post those in the same WIP thread or start a new one in the animation section?

[bmckain]

Bob, I have a question.

When it comes to the animations do we post those in the same WIP thread or start a new one in the animation section?

Post everything in the same thread. That will make it easy for us to find it all and associate everything with the right person when the contest ends.

[DELTA]

Looks like I'm gonna have to drop out of this one. My computer died rather decisivly on saturday. Not sure when I'm going to have a computer up and running that can run Lightwave.

I know how you feel... Lost my laptop, had no money to even think of fixing it or replacing it, then a neighbor helped me out with a bunch of spar parts and 24 hours was up and running again...

I have a few extra parts, What do you need?

[Zippy]

not entirely sure. It's between the PSU and the MOBO. I'm leaning towards the MOBO as all the indicator lights on the Nic and my optical mouse are on and the monitor hasn't switched to testmode which means there is some power coming from the PSU. I've had two of those die on me before so I'm sure of what happens. Mind you they've both died on this board so maybe the board had enough with the wonky voltage :D. Thanks for the offer though, it's nice to know people out there care :D.
I've got my lappy up and running for now. Not sure if 9.3 will run on it though. It's an older Toshiba sattelite.

As for the desktop I'm not too worried about fixing it right now. I'm looking to buy a Macbook Pro once I get back into the work force. I just quite my job at a cabinet shop after reading the MSDS sheets and discovering that most of the stuff I was working with was insane. One of the nicest chemicals in the mix was Xylene, which by itself can cause cancer. So sufficed to say I needed to go :D. So now it's just a matter of time until I'm back up with an income.

Once again Delta thanks for the offer.

[DELTA]

The pain of loosing a computer is very fresh in my mind and my philosophy is."Help someone out, when they ask what they owe you, tell them to help someone else in need. If every one would do that... it would be a nicer world. If they blow you off and get selfish... Kill Them!...jk. ;)

[Gorgonzola_Happiness]

I wrote a Citizen Journalist article about this topic.
lockheed martin and censorship (http://graeme.instablogs.com/entry/lockheed-martin-and-censorship/)

I put up a comment on this today, also, as it occurred to me that:

It makes you wonder - if you are wounded by ordnance/munitions/whatever and when you are (if you survive) treated in hospital - does the arms/ammunition/ordnance manufacturer own the copyright to the x-ray imagery of the shrapnel or physical relics left in your body ?

oh what a legal Pandora's box this opens up...

:rolleyes:

[bmckain]

I just read it and good going, we need to do everything we can to raise awareness of the strong arm abuse by LM.

[DELTA]

Nice article!

[bmckain]

A member asked me to comment on the voting and how it will happen and I am just now getting the chance to post the details.

I’ve been very busy with other things, server moves, DNS hanged, registrar changes and a whole bunch of other stuff. One of those other things is having a new voting booth done. Our dev team is planning on having it ready for the culmination of this contest and it’s very cool. Written as a plugin to VB it will require members to choose 1st, 2nd and 3rd places and won’t accept a vote until all votes have been placed. It also attempts to negate ties (near impossible) but in the event we do have a tie then we will have a runoff between the them. Considering points are also handed out for animations or not among all the other criteria outlined and I really think we won’t need to worry about a tie.

As for handing out points for the other criteria that will be done by the admins, mods and a select group of Premiere and Contributing members so it should be pretty unbiased and even handed.

Half a month left and I see a lot of good work so I am really looking forward to the final subs and voting.

You’re WIP threads will be the submission threads, if you are finished or when you finish you should make a final post with all the items presented via images, animations and text and links, etc. and title the post and FINAL. We will know that you consider your work done. Those who did not quite finish will still be included in the voting but will obviously not get points for the extra considerations.

[bmckain]

Time is getting close, I know many have not quite finished their work. Would it be advntagoues for me to extend the deadline or not? I have no problem with extedning the deadline but I'll leave it up to all of you who are participating. I could cheapen the expereince for some where are approaching completion just as much as it could help others. Still, I'll leave it up to you all to decide.

[BillS]

I wouldn't mind a bit of an extension... but I don't think its fair to those that managed to pull it off in time. How about a few bonus points for those that did it and post it as finished before the actual time is up.

[DELTA]

I wouldn't mind a bit of an extension... but I don't think its fair to those that managed to pull it off in time. How about a few bonus points for those that did it and post it as finished before the actual time is up.


Sounds good to me, Work has been a killer.....

[Mook]

I was planning on getting it done, but having found out Lightwave doesn't like my computer anymore and refuses to render my file due to low RAM (I know, go figure!), an extension would be awesome so I can figure out what the problem is and fix it, or at least find a workaround.
That being said, I won't harbour a grudge if the deadline isn't extended! ;)

[bmckain]

Would like to hear from everyone else, so far it's 3 in favor of an extension.

[bmckain]

Sorry to be a pest everyone but there's around 25 of you and only three have made any comment on an extension.

[Rigel]

I say no extension. The contest was originally designed to allow for people not presenting the complete package i.e. points for drawings, points for modelling, points for texturing etc.

I for one expect to lose points on the company history and drawings as I did not put much effort into those parts. I plan on snagging points for completing an animation (the machine is working nights this week).

And frankly, I've run out of steam for this project. The three months has been enough; more than enough perhaps. I just want it over and move on.

[Mook]

I say no extension. The contest was originally designed to allow for people not presenting the complete package i.e. points for drawings, points for modelling, points for texturing etc.

I for one expect to lose points on the company history and drawings as I did not put much effort into those parts. I plan on snagging points for completing an animation (the machine is working nights this week).

And frankly, I've run out of steam for this project. The three months has been enough; more than enough perhaps. I just want it over and move on.
I'm actually starting to lean this direction too, now. Managed to sort my technical problems out for the most part, and that was what was going to stop me getting it done.
Plus, 3 months is a LONG time to be working on one model for me... Gotta agree with Rigel on this one, especially since everything is back up and running.

[Rigel]

My current check list:

1) Create company and history (done; history needs some work).

2) Create company logo (done, but needs a change; looks like a business card).

3) Create the design (done).

4) Build the model (done).

5) Texture the model (done).

6) Present the model in a high resolution (done).

7) Present the model in an animation (work in progress).

[Mook]

And mine:

1) Create company and history (done).

2) Create company logo (mostly done, but needs finalising and a final copy).

3) Create the design (done).

4) Build the model (done).

5) Texture the model (mostly done, apart from UVs for graphics, nose art etc).

6) Present the model in a high resolution (to be done).

7) Present the model in an animation (work in progress).

[Madkoifish]

Well I kind of goofed and thought this ended July 1st then realized when seeing threads pop up consistently this last week that it was July 31st OOPS. I'd say extension in a attempt to finish mine, but as said; the deadline was set and probably should be kept to. It would be unfair to those who actually met the original deadline.

[bmckain]

As the vote would stand right now it would be:

3 for
2 against

I'll give this one more day. What I might do if I extend it is to allow extra points for finishing everything on time. That way those who are done on time can be done and now they are rewarded for that and those who needed a little extra can have it and perhaps make up for it by excellence.

[Bishop]

As the vote would stand right now it would be:

3 for
2 against

I'll give this one more day. What I might do if I extend it is to allow extra points for finishing everything on time. That way those who are done on time can be done and now they are rewarded for that and those who needed a little extra can have it and perhaps make up for it by excellence.



I'd love to have a little extra time, but I don't honestly think I'll get it finished to the level I -want-, no matter how much time I've got.

I'm just going to slam as much in as I can today and tomorrow, I think, and just go with what I've got on the original deadline.

[bmckain]

Okay, not everyone weighed in but I think it's a good cross sample to make a decision and I want to make a decision today while there's time to communicate it.

I see both sides and I believe I have found a way to satisfy both sides.

I will extend the contest to end on August 29th, that is a Friday.

However, knowing that several of you are nearly done or will be done on time I am adding the following points for having scheduled and worked hard to achieve that goal.

25 Points - For completion of project on time

By doing this if you finished your project on time you will automatically get a 25 points boost. I still think a few of the projects that aren't quite that close could make it a real running even if they are done late but we'll have to see.

I think this should satisfy both sides as much I can.

[Gryshnak]

Thanks for the extension, I'm afraid health problems knocked this project (and several others) on the head quite effectively. But you never know, I may get something finished yet...

Gryshnak

[Artificial Imagination]

Sweet!!

Thanks for the extension bob, with the baby these days I'll take any gravy I can get lol.

Question about the animation, are there any guidelines as far as what you're looking for in the animation?

[bmckain]

Sweet!!

Thanks for the extension bob, with the baby these days I'll take any gravy I can get lol.

Question about the animation, are there any guidelines as far as what you're looking for in the animation?

Nope, it's entirely up to each contestant.

[DELTA]

I might have it done, time and work will dictate if I can before the original deadline.

My current check list:

1) Create company and history (done).

2) Create company logo (done, but updating).

3) Create the design (done).

4) Build the model (done).

5) Texture the model (almost).

6) Present the model in a high resolution (done).

7) Present the model in an animation (work in progress).

[bmckain]

Well, I am no where near that far. I am rebuilding the gear, then I have to texture it and rig it.

My current check list:

1) Create company and history (mostly done).

2) Create company logo (done, but updating).

3) Create the design (done).

4) Build the model (done).

5) Texture the model (45%).

6) Present the model in a high resolution (not done).

7) Present the model in an animation (not done).

Updated 8/17/08

[BillS]

Finish texturing.
Do the rig up.
then...........shudder....

Animate it so that people can see that it moves.

ick. :)

[Mook]

Nope, it's entirely up to each contestant.
So we can just have the various moving parts animated (i.e. landing gear, props etc) and a flyby maybe, and still get points in that category?

[Mook]

Well, I'm getting there...! :D
An updated list:

1) Create company and history (done).

2) Create company logo (done).

3) Create the design (done).

4) Build the model (done).

5) Texture the model (done).

6) Present the model in a high resolution (rendering now).

7) Present the model in an animation (work in progress).

[Rigel]

Finish texturing.
Do the rig up.
then...........shudder....

Animate it so that people can see that it moves.

ick. :)

Read the Animation 101 tutorials. You can do it Bill, we know you can.

[Rigel]

My entry is posted, for all that it's worth. Now my baby is out in the world to make its way as it sees fit.

[bmckain]

My entry is posted, for all that it's worth. Now my baby is out in the world to make its way as it sees fit.

Excellent! One done on time! Duely noted on the points. ;)

[BillS]

Read the Animation 101 tutorials. You can do it Bill, we know you can.

Oh I can .... but that doesn't mean that I have to like it :)

[DELTA]

What time do the entries need to be in tonight?

[bmckain]

What time do the entries need to be in tonight?

By Midnight tonight.

[Mook]

My final post has been submitted in my WIP. Just thought I should let you know here as well. :)

[bmckain]

My final post has been submitted in my WIP. Just thought I should let you know here as well. :)

Noted. :)

[DELTA]

My final post has been submitted in my WIP. My post was late because rendering the last animation took longer than LW said it wood...

[Artificial Imagination]

All things being well I should have my final submission in tonight, provided my animation turns out ok.

I've gone for a minimalist texture job though since it seems that I won't have the time in the next few weeks to finish it up properly so I've decided just to turn in what I have and let it be done.

I'll probably come back to it eventually and finish it up properly but I have no idea when that might be.

Look for the final post sometime tonight after 7pm central.

This was a lot of fun, we should do something like this again :D

[CrippledPidgeon]

Well I think I'm still in. I unexpectedly had to stall my wip in order to take a very time-consuming summer class... unfortunately one of those things you need to do when you need that ONE class to graduate.

Anyway, it gave me time to reevaluate and refine my design, so I'm going to get to work on remaking the blueprint (properly this time!) and start building it up. Let's see if I can do everything in under 20 days.... :P

[NW5586]

I unexpectedly had to stall my wip

Pun?

Anyway, it gave me time to reevaluate and refine my design, so I'm going to get to work on remaking the blueprint (properly this time!) and start building it up. Let's see if I can do everything in under 20 days.... :P

Hope all goes well and you're able to finish.

[bmckain]

Just making sure we've captured all the finished entries. All entries that are completed have been noted as follows:


The thread category has been edited with "F3D Contest Entry - Completed"
The entry list (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?p=34769#post34769) has been edited to show the completion date

If I have missed anyone just let me know either here or via PM. As you complete your entries make a note of it here, you're post date will act as your completion stamp.

Just two weeks to go, light the flames guys and kick it into overdrive!

And for those of you who are finished, please help us encourage everyone to finish.

[BillS]

Just finishing up the last couple renders then I'll post those and change mine to complete. I've got a modo render and spent the last little bit taking it into XSI to render there. Nothing special just making sure that all the maps were attached etc.

[Rigel]

Come guys, get to it!

How do expect to beat me if you don't finish??? :)

[DELTA]

Come guys, get to it!

How do expect to beat me if you don't finish??? :)


LOL

Zaps Rigel with Pointy Stick, to calm his eagerness...:)

[bmckain]

Just bumping this, the prizes have been secured so someone is going to get them. Don't know about any of you but I wouldn't turn my nose up at $150.00 or $75.00 bucks. And for all those who finish the models there is always the possibility that your work could be considered for Premiere Content which also translates into cash. Gotta love the sound of that word, C A S H... :D

[bmckain]

Just reminding everyone that entries need to be finalized and submitted the 29th, this Friday by midnight US MST. Even if you haven't done all the different options be sure to submit what you have for the popular vote, points will be added at the end of the poll to determine the final outcome. So every has a good chance if the model is at least done and textured.

[DELTA]

This was a fun, if not a trying excersise. I would love to see everyones work. Remember that time is ticking...

[Artificial Imagination]

Well I'm giving my animation one last crack before the deadline; if it doesn't turn out I'll post the best of the 3 and let you guys decide.

[bmckain]

Well I'm giving my animation one last crack before the deadline; if it doesn't turn out I'll post the best of the 3 and let you guys decide.

Excellent, I am just hoping to have a plane done at this point. ;)

[Rigel]

First of all, I'd like to thank all of the members of the academy. . .

Oops, sorry, that's another dream. :)

[Artificial Imagination]

I can't really say mine is done, but its at a stage where I won't be able to do any more to it, I have very limited time at home to work on this sort of stuff now that my daughter is almost a year old, not that I'm complaining, ok I am but still, given the choices, I was lucky to get as far as I did with it.

[bmckain]

I can't really say mine is done, but its at a stage where I won't be able to do any more to it, I have very limited time at home to work on this sort of stuff now that my daughter is almost a year old, not that I'm complaining, ok I am but still, given the choices, I was lucky to get as far as I did with it.

Duely noted in the logs. If you do get a chance to do more you may up until the deadline.

[Artificial Imagination]

I have posted my final entry in my WIP thread.

I do hope we get the chance to do something like this again, it was a hellova lot of fun.

[ALp]

So have I , with 15 minutes to spare as it seems :)

LW9.5 gave me quite a scare last night, I lost the model , the file became corrupted for some reason and Modeler crashed, but took a step back and re-did it from the previous versions and from "save as transformed" within Layout. It was strange because though modeler was crashing up on the object, Layout loaded the scene and worked as if nothing happened.

So after 2 sleepless nights I made it just in time :) Hope you like what you see , folks :)

P.S.
Bob , can you confirm my entry ? ;)

[bmckain]

Thanks everyone, I've got you all added to the list. In reality I won't be able to do anything with this until next week as I have a news letter to put out tomorrow and we're headed out in about an hour.

WIth that being the case and since this deadline, being an extension, doesn't count for extra points based on meeting a deadline I will continue to accept entries until midnight Sunday. Admin perogative? ;)

Come Tuesday I will start putting the voting booth together and tallying points. This was perhaps a bit too aggressive a contest right out of the box but I am impressed that nearly a third of you actually completed to the animation point. I will review all threads to determine how many of the others will make it to voting, I believe if they made it to final render phase they will be inclided since the animation was an extra points perk.

Thanks again to everyone for your participation, we've got a couple of ideas brewing for the next Ad LIbitum and Delta's Monthly Challenges will be starting soonish based on the disires outlined in the contest thread a while back.

[DELTA]

Good Luck Everyone!!!

[ALp]

Thanks everyone, I've got you all added to the list. In reality I won't be able to do anything with this until next week as I have a news letter to put out tomorrow and we're headed out in about an hour.

WIth that being the case and since this deadline, being an extension, doesn't count for extra points based on meeting a deadline I will continue to accept entries until midnight Sunday. Admin perogative? ;)



So the extra points on meeting the deadline is only to those who made it by August 1st? ;)

[bmckain]

So the extra points on meeting the deadline is only to those who made it by August 1st? ;)

Yeppers, they get an extra set of "dealine" points not available to those of us who finished late. You still get animation points, and etc just not the points for finishing on the original deadline. Had to find a way to make it fair for them when we extended.

[ALp]

This was a fun, if not a trying excersise. I would love to see everyones work. Remember that time is ticking...

25 metric tons of fun :) just enough for the FAIRLifter (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?p=54310#post54310) to deliver LOL :) :) :)

But on the more serious note, I think the contest was my first "out of the day job" 3d work that I actually finished on time, nevermind the accidents and everything else.

[bmckain]

Well guys, hoping a couple more of you will make it before I get back tomorrow and start pulling everything together. At this point eight have finished completely and I haven't checked to see who finished to a final image yet but I will tomorrow.

If you have a completed entry in by the time I get back tomorrow, sometime in the afternoon I will accept it.

If you aren't able to finish an animation but have the model done otherwise, then submit it as a completed to that point.

In fact everyone who completed up to the texturing phase should submit their final entry. If you aren't sure how to do that, take a look at any of the completed entries.

Good luck.

[bmckain]

Hi All,

That's it, I've given everyone just as long as I could. I've reviewed all the entries to be sure I didn't miss anyone and I had. :o

All entries have been marked accordingly now and notated to the exact date they were completed. 40% of the group made it all the way to an animation. And from the looks of it another 10% may have made it to a final or close to a final render.

All those who entered will be in the voting booth and I will tally the points tomorrow I suspect and get the results up.

Once the voting is over and extra points added we will announce the winnders and give out the prizes.

Thanks to everyone who whether you completed or not you helped draw attention by your participation. Now it's good luck to everyone in the voting!

[ALp]

Come Tuesday I will start putting the voting booth together and tallying points.

Thanks again to everyone for your participation, we've got a couple of ideas brewing for the next Ad LIbitum and Delta's Monthly Challenges will be starting soonish based on the disires outlined in the contest thread a while back.

I apologise for the stupid question, but where will the booth be and how do we vote? This is my first contest on here :) Plus I have a great idea about the next contest, I will PM you on this during the week

[bmckain]

I apologise for the stupid question, but where will the booth be and how do we vote? This is my first contest on here :) Plus I have a great idea about the next contest, I will PM you on this during the week

I'll post a specific poll in this forum. I just need to review everything first and apply all the points for the entries.

[bmckain]

Points Talley

I’ve reviewed all entries and awarded points based on criteria from post #1. Everyone got something and of course those who finished on time got extra points. This reflects the point’s winners and for clarification these points will be added to the popular vote affecting the final outcome. The poll will open on the 4th as planned.


Mook - 145
Delta – 145
Rigel - 145

Bills – 120
NW5586 – 120
Alp – 120
bmckain – 120
BAROBA – 120
Artificial Imagination – 120
CD2703 – 120

Escelce – 80

youngheart80 – 65
ranger – 65

Bishop – 60
Madkoifish – 60
juland – 60

Voidster – 55

CrippledPidgeon – 45

Gryshnak – 40
Elowan - 40
Malcolm Reynolds – 40

Venom – 35

Zippy – 30
TheGreatRaja – 30

virtualkey08 - 20
Evolution – 20

[BillS]

-120?!?!?


oops ignore me. :p

[Escelce]

Sorry i didnt do more to my entry. Work kind of took over and left me about ten minutes free time in a month!!! any best of luck to everyone! some great entries and well done to all those that completed the stages.

-E

[bmckain]

Sorry i didnt do more to my entry. Work kind of took over and left me about ten minutes free time in a month!!! any best of luck to everyone! some great entries and well done to all those that completed the stages.

-E

You were really so very close. A company, history, logo and 1600 res render would have put you in the finalists. ;)

[Artificial Imagination]

I'm happy with 120, I finished, that was the main thing I cared about lol.

[bmckain]

-120?!?!?


oops ignore me. :p

LOL, those of us who finsihed after the first deadline didn't get those extra 25 points. ;)

[DELTA]

I am glad that even with all of life's hick-ups, that this many people got as much as they did done....

Good Luck everyone, Nice Work!!!

Kudos to all!!!

[BAROBA]

Uhm, the guys who posted on the original deadline got 145?
Excuse me but you extended the deadline, so why do they still get like 25 more points...
Doesn't seem fair to me...

[DELTA]

Uhm, the guys who posted on the original deadline got 145?
Excuse me but you extended the deadline, so why do they still get like 25 more points...
Doesn't seem fair to me...

Because they finished by the original deadline. (25 point bonus for fulfilling the original contract.) Seems very fair.

Now it is up to the popular vote.

And as before, Good Luck to everyone!

[bmckain]

Uhm, the guys who posted on the original deadline got 145?
Excuse me but you extended the deadline, so why do they still get like 25 more points...
Doesn't seem fair to me...

It was because we extended the deadline. When we did it was a split as to whether we woud or not, obviously those who finished on time should get something additional for that. The second deadline was because we had to have a cutoff date biut no points were awarded for that. It's recorded in this thread and we asked for eveyone's input at the time. In fact I sent PM's to all entrants asking for their input but we only had a week to make the decision.

It was either that or we would have only had three finalists. ;)

[BAROBA]

I missed that... I choose to meet the extended one. Becuase I wasn't like 100% ready. ( Just like 99%).
Next time I should read this thread instead of scanning thru it :)

Good luck to everyone :)

[bmckain]

Tis ok, we're finding that you practically have to push information in people's faces before they see it. ;)

[vailan]

I can't believe they would be so stingy on the names.

[bmckain]

I can't believe they would be so stingy on the names.

I think I missed something here, what we talking about?

[SAHiN]

Ok I am done.. I win.. send me my cash now !
Company : United Federation of Planets
Logo : Can be found on the net
Ship Design: USS Enterprise 1701a

thank you :D

[DELTA]

this is so long done it's not funny......



It was still a very fun competition, I was glad to be reminded of it....:)

[SAHiN]

this is so long done it's not funny......

Some of us are new to this forum.
There is no way we can know what you did or did not do !

[Andrew March]

SaHin, I think it would be easier if you read the first page of these contests, they all explain when they start and finish and what is involved in entering the contest.

[lespauljr]

Maybe I can be on time for the next one.

[Redcow]

Pretty cool