Wings of War Vote

[bmckain]

This contest represents the first time we have ever run a three month long contest and a compromise between popular opinion and actual merit. In the past I have always felt it was unfair for a vote to be driven be popularity alone since there is a tendency to overlook execution, poly efficiency, how well the artist adhered to the guidelines and etc. On the other hand a purely points based system takes the fun of a popular vote out of the equation, there’s nothing more fun than a good neck and neck race. So for this contest I’ve merged the two. The points will be added to the popular vote for the final outcome with each point counting as a vote.

The break down is as follows:

145 points equal a 1st place vote
120 points equal a 2nd place vote
80 - 60 points equal a 3rd place vote
55 - 20 points equal a 4th place vote

Before we start I want to give a huge thanks to all who started, whether you finish or not your willingness to participate helped make this a success and the shear volume of work and interest drew attention to the reason for the contest in the first place. And I would be remiss if I didn’t take a little time to point that out yet again.

While I personally support copyright and trademark protection I do not believe in overly aggressive zealousness to the point people would not be allowed to paint, model or represent real life items in their work. Such is the case of Lockheed Martin in demonizing modelers and artists depicting aircraft commissioned by the people of the United States of America for wartime protection.

What I am about to say is my opinion not a lawyers so please take it as such. Much can be said and argued regarding who owns what but the fact is that once the design has been sold to the government (that’s We the People) it belongs to us collectively. It is our tax money paying for the design work and as such it belongs to the public interest.

Even if you don’t subscribe to that notion it is never the less unthinkable that an artist may not represent those aircraft for public or private or for profit or not. With this contest it was our intent to draw attention to what we believe to be unscrupulous and unfair practices on the part of Lockheed Martin and encourage all members regardless of specific interest to engage their congressional leaders on this matter. For that purpose I am posting the contact links here.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation (http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/04/liberate-b-24-liberator) sent an open letter (http://www.eff.org/files/filenode/MacNeillLetter%20040908.pdf) to Lockheed Martin fighting back against this extreme view on copyright/trademark infringement.

Contact your congressional leaders (http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml) expressing your concern and the damage this aggressive stance will and is causing.



Part of the contest was to present all those who participated with a document outlining copyright/trademark and how to do that. True to my word I went and did my due diligence and present those documents here for everyone. A serendipity is that MattMan took the time to provide us with one for Australia and Bill has one for Canada as well. I was unable to find them but will add them as soon as I locate them.

US 3D Copyright.pdf (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/private/2008/04/2-17-448258.pdf)



And now without further ado, for your consideration, in alphabetic order, the entries!

*I have provided the most complete view of thier work if it was incomplete.
**Clicking on their name will take you to their final presentation or their thread if incomplete.
+ Denotes those who completed the project





+ Alp (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showpost.php?p=54310&postcount=33)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-06-765294_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-06-765294.jpg)




+ Artificial Imagination (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showpost.php?p=53759&postcount=56)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-533199_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-533199.jpg)




+ BAROBA (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showpost.php?p=53917&postcount=94)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-533422_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-533422.jpg)




+ BillS (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showpost.php?p=51634&postcount=96)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-533556_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-533556.jpg)




Bishop (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2307)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-533675_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-533675.jpg)




+ bmckain (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showpost.php?p=54683&postcount=90)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-533963_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-533963.jpg)




+ CD2703 (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showpost.php?p=54012&postcount=43)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-534112_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-534112.jpg)




Crippled Pidgeon (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2403)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-534225_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-534225.jpg)




+ Delta (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showpost.php?p=49198&postcount=143)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-534347_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-534347.jpg)




Elowan (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2376)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-534438_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-534438.jpg)




Escelce (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2425)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-534546_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-534546.jpg)




Evolution (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2470)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-534643_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-534643.jpg)




Gryshnak (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2302)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-534898_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-534898.jpg)




juland (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2335)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-535012_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-535012.jpg)




Madkoifish (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2317)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-535105_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-535105.jpg)




Malcolm Reynolds (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2380)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-535205_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-535205.jpg)




+ Mook (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showpost.php?p=49161&postcount=162)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-535315_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-535315.jpg)




+ NW5586 (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showpost.php?p=53787&postcount=28)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-535441_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-535441.jpg)




ranger (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2370)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-535522_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-535522.jpg)




+ Rigel (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showpost.php?p=48899&postcount=95)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-535627_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-535627.jpg)




TheGreatRaja (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2309)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-535738_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-535738.jpg)




Venom (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2340)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-535866_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-535866.jpg)




virtualkey08 (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2311)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-535988_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-535988.jpg)




Voidster (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2352)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-536078_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-536078.jpg)




youngheart80 (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2349)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-536193_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-536193.jpg)




Zippy (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2315)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-536273_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/contests/2008/09/2-04-536273.jpg)

[bmckain]

I edited Alp's image at his request and btw, you can post to this thread, just making sure everyone knows that.

[ALp]

:cool: Thanks , Bob :cool:

And I am sure everyone knows :)
The FAIRLifter's diagram was just a diagram , I would want people to see it in its real environment instead :) The diagram was more explanatory then representative, if you catch my drift, folks :)

[DELTA]

Great Work Everyone!!!

[BillS]

This was tough as hell to nail down, even to 5. That's a tribute to everyone's work!

[Rigel]

Some fantastic stuff in there.

[ALp]

This was tough as hell to nail down, even to 5. That's a tribute to everyone's work!

Yup, Bill :)
Even folks who did not finish made a good effort in form and design, and just for that they deserve appreciation.

Me, for instance, in all the rush during the last week of the contest and technicalities here and there, I forgot to make a beauty-shot :)
But I will add it up AFTER the voting is over :)
It is all set up and ready to F9 :)

And, Bob, I think what needs to be done (in the next contests cause too late for here) is to make a score-based voting booth with scores for everyone, not just the first five places, because those of us who do not hit the first five, for various reasons, would still like to feel the heat of the race :).

After all the main point of any contest should be to make all of us better, not just for some of us to win the price ;) if you know what I mean.

[DELTA]

I was wondering how the points standings and the popular vote will be murged to become the final standings? I agree that this was a hard one to nail down, Good Luck Everyone!

[bmckain]

I was wondering how the points standings and the popular vote will be murged to become the final standings? I agree that this was a hard one to nail down, Good Luck Everyone!

I outlined that in the first post. ;)

[Lee Medcalf]

Its a real range of skills on display and the imagination from the original setup is clearly firing here! Great work everyone who took part.... Especially those who went seriously in to their company and the design work, not just the pretty renders....

This was a great contest and the work speaks for itself.... It was a tough call to vote, but they always are.... ;)

[DELTA]

I outlined that in the first post. ;)



Sorry, these long hours are getting to me... :o

[ALp]

It is already September 10th here and only 38 people voted...
Maybe everybody should get a special newsletter bulletin?
With just 3 words in the middle saying Vote, Vote , Vote :)
linked to this thread :)

[bmckain]

It is already September 10th here and only 38 people voted...
Maybe everybody should get a special newsletter bulletin?
With just 3 words in the middle saying Vote, Vote , Vote :)
linked to this thread :)

Yeah, I've noticed that and I've thought about it but I really don't like to send out more than one email from the site a month. Too many emails and people stop paying attention.

[bmckain]

It is already September 10th here and only 38 people voted...
Maybe everybody should get a special newsletter bulletin?
With just 3 words in the middle saying Vote, Vote , Vote :)
linked to this thread :)

Perhaps a word of mouth campaign by the members is inline. Nothing better than a grass roots movment. ;)

[BillS]

Runs out.... :)

[BillS]

Pant Pant Pant.... ;)

[Mikala]

Now that was a blitz!

[Epiphany]

I think BillS's mouse finger must be out of breath :D

[doncha_magoso]

wow!! now those are some good designs :D

[bmckain]

LOL, I think Bill wants you all to VOTE! :D

[Mikala]

No way? He was so subtle about it :)

[Prologic9]

I was going to vote I was just putting it off. I mean I have a week. If we had a week to vote for the President I wouldn't do it on the first day...

Anyways, now that I've voted I'm surprised at some of the results.

[Mikala]

It has been fluctuating a bit hasn't it?

[Epiphany]

It has been fluctuating a bit hasn't it?

It has. ( Statement not a question ). I voted on the second day and its changed a lot. But I think BillS voted more than once :p

[bmckain]

I was going to vote I was just putting it off. I mean I have a week. If we had a week to vote for the President I wouldn't do it on the first day...

Anyways, now that I've voted I'm surprised at some of the results.

Now, that's a curios response that I have to explore. Is that because you thought some were better than others or because you aren't familiar with the way the voting system works. Just curious.

[Prologic9]

Now, that's a curios response that I have to explore. Is that because you thought some were better than others or because you aren't familiar with the way the voting system works. Just curious.


No, just me voting differently.

Is there anyway in the future that the polls could be set up so you can see all the results, and not just the Top 5?

[bmckain]

No, just me voting differently.

Is there anyway in the future that the polls could be set up so you can see all the results, and not just the Top 5?

Unfortunately only the result for the number of selections. This poll is a truely weighted system. the information on how it works is here (http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2916). The quick description is that if first place is 2.0 then it had 2 percent of the population, the population begin those who have voted. And 1st is worth more than 2 which is worth more than 3 and etc. The more detailed explanation explains it in detail but its the same type of system used for voting.

[Epiphany]

So its the Electoral College that picks the winner :wtf: Sound familier.;)


LMAO

[BillS]

All that and I only dragged in 4 more!? Don't make me start necroposting!!!! Believe me... I'm not above doing it :D:p

[bmckain]

So its the Electoral College that picks the winner :wtf: Sound familier.;)


LMAO

Oh no! The only difference here is that we have the popular vote and the points vote, we had to convert points to a vote syste, to be applied at the end of the popular vote. All that hard work has to count for something and past expereince showed us that a popular vote didn't always reflect whether the item was really better or not.

[Epiphany]

Oh no! The only difference here is that we have the popular vote and the points vote, we had to convert points to a vote syste, to be applied at the end of the popular vote. All that hard work has to count for something and past expereince showed us that a popular vote didn't always reflect whether the item was really better or not.


I was joking by the way ;) They were just discussing the popular vote vs. electoral college it on the news

[bmckain]

I was joking by the way ;) They were just discussing the popular vote vs. electoral college it on the news

Tis ok, I don't mind expaining. :)

[DoxxRoxx]

I voted 'cause BillS told me to...

Thanks for the reminder BIllS!

[Troo]

I done voted! Hurrah!

[Lee Medcalf]

All that and I only dragged in 4 more!? Don't make me start necroposting!!!! Believe me... I'm not above doing it :D:p

Man you have no shame LOL:D

[BillS]

Man you have no shame LOL:D

None what so ever. :)

[Lee Medcalf]

After following around the vote spams I am in no doubt about that ;) :p

[Rigel]

Bill spams the forums to get people to vote.

Bill ends up in first place.

Hmmmm. . .

[BAROBA]

We should have a 'votebot' spamming things, maybe this can be inplemented later, or someone willing to act as one with a unique account. Maybe this is a good idea, Bob?

[bmckain]

We should have a 'votebot' spamming things, maybe this can be inplemented later, or someone willing to act as one with a unique account. Maybe this is a good idea, Bob?

LOL, annoying messges popping up, Have you voted today?

Right, I can just imagine the line backing up at the support office. ;)

[BillS]

Bill the VoteBot.


hmm... doesn't really flow well.

[Cybit]

Wow, decisions, decisions decisions.....almost gave me a headache trying to decide which ones I liked the most.

Great Work Everyone! :tu:

[Treybor]

What?!?! We can't vote for all of them.... darn

[Syntrifid]

Damn! This was tough!
:tu: to all all that entered. Lotta kikass designs and models! And some spectacular renders!

[deg3D]

Nice job everyone, big congrats! :)

deg

[DELTA]

Bill spams the forums to get people to vote.

Bill ends up in first place.

Hmmmm. . .


Your the one with your acceptance speech already writen...LOL
:p

[bmckain]

Your the one with your acceptance speech already writen...LOL
:p


LOL, I dunno, those first three slots are way too close to call with a week to go. :)

[Lee Medcalf]

Of course there could be a 1 point penalty for every thread derailed by spam ;)

[BAROBA]

Only a miracle can throw the votes around now.... 60+ votes on 3,000+ members?
In most countries that is a reason for re-elections :p

[bmckain]

Only a miracle can throw the votes around now.... 60+ votes on 3,000+ members?
In most countries that is a reason for re-elections :p

Yep, It's bad when you can't even take time to vote. View, click... yep, that's an aweful lot of work. :p

[Rigel]

I fear most of those 3,000+ members have looked us over once or twice and not returned.

[bmckain]

I fear most of those 3,000+ members have looked us over once or twice and not returned.

I never count the membership, I count the active members and that is around 1650 active so it's still pretty poor odds. ;)

[bmckain]

I wonder how many thread bumps it'll take to get more to vote? :devil: :devil: :devil:

[Mikala]

A sticky announcement won't work?

[bmckain]

A sticky announcement won't work?

I have the front-page announcement and a forum site announcement that has been read 351 times, you'd think...

[Mikala]

Hmmmm. You'd think that would do it indeed.

[Epiphany]

I voted :D Early and Often :evil:

I just looked at the members page. When you sort by posts I'm on the front page. :wtf:

OMG I'm a post ho:jawdrop:

[Mikala]

Just added another reminder to my Clover Lice thread asking for a bit of voting action.
Hope it helps.

[bmckain]

Every little bit helps. :)

[bmckain]

Oh, what the heck! Let's bump it one mre time.:evil:

[Mikala]

A self spam rampage coming up? :)

[bmckain]

A self spam rampage coming up? :)

Could be... :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

[bmckain]

Keeps giog up little by little, we might make 100 votes yet. :)

[Voidster]

stopped in to cast my votes. I wasnt able to complete mine sadly, but hey it was fun :)

[Epiphany]

So what will be the subject of the next contest :)

[bmckain]

So what will be the subject of the next contest :)

I'm supposed to know that already? :p :devil:

[Mikala]

Like fer shure ya know. :)

[bmckain]

BUMP!

:devil:

[Epiphany]

I'm supposed to know that already? :p :devil:


The word under your screen name seems to make me think .................................................. ...........................................YES

:p :p :p :p :p :p:D ;)

[bmckain]

The word under your screen name seems to make me think .................................................. ...........................................YES

:p :p :p :p :p :p:D ;)

Oh you mean (Administrator). That's just the guys messing with you, I'm just the local yocal. ;)

[bmckain]

Only 67 votes...


BUMP!

:devil: :devil: :devil:

You know how to stop this. :D :D :D

[BillS]

SET!!!

[BillS]

SPIKE!!!!

[BillS]

And the crowd goes wild!!!!!!!!!!!

[bmckain]

Ya'll should've listened to me, now it's the Vote Bot from Hell! :)

[Mikala]

Pokes head in..."Is the bad man gone?"...

[bmckain]

Pokes head in..."Is the bad man gone?"...

That depends, how many votes are there? :p

[Lee Medcalf]

Bill's been busy....

I managed to catch him at work on the threads..... using a secret spy cam....
http://noticethings.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/spam.jpg

Lets hope this comp ends soon, 800 requests to vote doesn't make the most interesting of reading....

[bmckain]

Rofl!

[Mikala]

He was wearing a mask!

[bmckain]

Yahahahahhaha!

[bmckain]

Well, you are what you eat, I always say. :p :rolleyes: Oh, even I had to roll my eyes on that one...

[BillS]

He was wearing a mask!

You swore that you'd never show that!!!!!!!!!! :)

[Mikala]

Ah Bills torture begins :)
Oh and Bill there were other much more damaging photos!

[BillS]

Ah Bills torture begins :)
Oh and Bill there were other much more damaging photos!

You don't want me to start necro posting do you!?!?

[bmckain]

I voted.... I voted the second day... and it WAS NOT FOR BILL!!!!

Well if you didn't vote for Bill and I didn't vote for Bill... ...scratches head and wanders off

[BillS]

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[BillS]

Well, you are what you eat, I always say. :p

Glances at the wife....... that would make me.. :crazy: :eek: :jawdrop: :rolleyes: :tu:

[Epiphany]

Glances at the wife....... that would make me.. :crazy: :eek: :jawdrop: :rolleyes: :tu:


I've never heard of a.. :crazy: :eek: :jawdrop: :rolleyes: :tu: Named Bill before. :confused:
I thought they were suppose to be named after Jello Dessert Prroducts :confused:

[Mikala]

You don't want me to start necro posting do you!?!?
Bah I am the Moon Canuck and invincible! Wait did I say that out loud?

[bmckain]

Bah I am the Moon Canuck and invincible! Wait did I say that out loud?

Uh huh... :p

[Mikala]

Okay then. Bill there are no pictures....

[ALp]

hmm , it seems to me almost no voters are actually going to see the threads :) Because I have seen some amazing work that did not catch any votes? (and NO , I am not talking about mine LOL) I do not mention which ones because I do not want to sway the opinions at the last moment... but yes you probably know who you are ;)

I think it would be only fair to have us all rated and then pick up the top five rather than picking top five from the list ;) anybody seconds that?

[bmckain]

hmm , it seems to me almost no voters are actually going to see the threads :) Because I have seen some amazing work that did not catch any votes? (and NO , I am not talking about mine LOL) I do not mention which ones because I do not want to sway the opinions at the last moment... but yes you probably know who you are ;)

I think it would be only fair to have us all rated and then pick up the top five rather than picking top five from the list ;) anybody seconds that?

I can't please everybody, unfortunately, this is the way we specified it would be from the beginning. But in essence you have the same choice, everyone's work is shown whether completed or not plus linked to thier thread and the best representation of the work.

Voting is voting, it boils down to who thinks what is best in thier own opinion. I've looked at the polls behind the scenes and everyone got some sort of vote, what I cannot tell you is who voted for what place. In other words I wouldn't know who you gave a 1st place vote to, only that you voted five times. This method absolutely cannot be tampered with, a complaint about the old polling system. This also forces you to place all you available votes for each place, another problem with the old system. You could skew the entire poll by casting only one vote rather than five. It's a much fairer and more accurate system and what I think you are really unhappy about is that we don't show everyone's percentages. or allow everyone to get a vote. In that case I would have to say, why even have a vote. If everyone gets ranked then mere 75 voters won't produce any definitive results.

That's my take on it anyway.

[Troo]

I voted for you, ALp :)

[BillS]

78 MUH HA HA HA!!!

Cue lightning and thunder. :)

[Cybit]

78 MUH HA HA HA!!!

Cue lightning and thunder. :)

I have to admit.......You do that rather well. :D

[Mikala]

Get the Tranq gun and nets! He's about to snap!

[DStride]

There Cybit I voted, can you put that cattle prod away now......the constant poking stings you know. :nuts: :nuts:

I'm not even really sure that your use of a cattle prod to get me to vote is legal.... is it? :confused:

Despite all the craziness in here I still managed to cast my vote.

[Rigel]

Hey Bill???

I DIDN'T VOTE!!!!


:evil: :evil: :yuck: :yuck: :) :drool: :drool: :evil: :evil:

[Gryshnak]

Seriously good entries, I'm amazed at what everyone managed to come up with.

Really sorry I wasn't able to keep up with this contest, various health problems keep getting in the way - for one thing, my eyes won't let me sit in front of a computer screen for too long any more. Hopefully this is only a short term problem 'cos I really miss my regular internet fix!

Gryshnak

[bmckain]

Seriously good entries, I'm amazed at what everyone managed to come up with.

Really sorry I wasn't able to keep up with this contest, various health problems keep getting in the way - for one thing, my eyes won't let me sit in front of a computer screen for too long any more. Hopefully this is only a short term problem 'cos I really miss my regular internet fix!

Gryshnak

Really sorry to hear about the health problems and I do hope the eye troubles are fixable.

[BAROBA]

The votes are in, and it seems that Bill is the winner :)
Congrats Bill :)

[bmckain]

Points votes have not been applied yet, I'll be doing that this afternoon and announcing the winner then.

Bob

[BillS]

I wouldn't count you out yet Baroba

[BAROBA]

Oh... Uhm..You may have won this battle but not the war!
:evil::p:cool:

[bmckain]

I’ve applied all the votes from the points score so the poll is now final and I want to officially congratulate the winners. All of the winners completed their projects as well so it’s great to be able to reward them for that.

BillS still took a solid 1st with Baroba following up with 2nd.

3rd, 4th and 5th go to CD2703, DELTA and Alp since I disqualified myself from prize competition which moved DELTA and Alp up the scale.

I also want to extend my thanks one more time to everyone who participated and I hope many of you will continue on with your designs and complete them.

I will be contacting the winners shortly to make arrangements for their prizes to be delivered.

[Mikala]

Wait...there were prizes? Joking
Congratulations to all.
Thanks for the entertaining threads and the thought and planning behind each of them

[BillS]

I honestly thought you were going to take it Baroba since I didn't get it in on time. Thanks to all the others that took part. Made the whole thing a lot more fun.

[Rigel]

Congrats one and all.

[Epiphany]

Congrats to all of you :cool: Way Cool Stuff :cool:

[ALp]

I can't please everybody, unfortunately, this is the way we specified it would be from the beginning. But in essence you have the same choice, everyone's work is shown whether completed or not plus linked to thier thread and the best representation of the work.

Voting is voting, it boils down to who thinks what is best in thier own opinion. I've looked at the polls behind the scenes and everyone got some sort of vote, what I cannot tell you is who voted for what place. In other words I wouldn't know who you gave a 1st place vote to, only that you voted five times. This method absolutely cannot be tampered with, a complaint about the old polling system. This also forces you to place all you available votes for each place, another problem with the old system. You could skew the entire poll by casting only one vote rather than five. It's a much fairer and more accurate system and what I think you are really unhappy about is that we don't show everyone's percentages. or allow everyone to get a vote. In that case I would have to say, why even have a vote. If everyone gets ranked then mere 75 voters won't produce any definitive results.

That's my take on it anyway.

Yes, I do see what you mean :) I will PM you with the idea for the next contest ... hmm maybe the one after next :) :) :)

P.S.
and... I voted for Makodfish :) :) :) really liked the 50's muscle-car look :)

[ALp]

I voted for you, ALp :)

YAY :) :) :) Thanks :) :) :)

[DELTA]

WOW, 4th place... With loosing my computer in the middle of the contest, I was just happy I finished by the original deadline. Great work everyone!!!

[Rigel]

Here comes the fun part:

now BillS gets to go through all of the forums and remove his "Has everyone voted" messages.

:)

[bmckain]

Yes, I do see what you mean :) I will PM you with the idea for the next contest ... hmm maybe the one after next :) :) :)

P.S.
and... I voted for Makodfish :) :) :) really liked the 50's muscle-car look :)

For what it's worth so did I. ;)

[bmckain]

Ok, a bit of a delay last night, I just ran out of steam. :o

Will contact all the winners today.

[bmckain]

PM's have been sent to all the winners with payment or delivery details for the prizes.

Again, Congratulations to everyone!

[BAROBA]

Congrats to all the winners and thanks to all the participants, it was a great contest :)

[Meurig]

Nice jobs all.

I have to admit that my first vote went to BAROBA. While the design isn't particularly out-there, looking as it does like a real existing plane design - which is a compliment really :p - the build and execution is absolutely top notch, with a few pretty successful composites thrown into the mix as well. First rate work, very impressive!