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DELTA
6th Dec 2007, 09:32 PM
As a boy I grew up reading these books, it was also one of the first games I bought for my C-64 It would be cool to create a full movie or game that would do this justice...

This video clip ROCKS!!! Thanks vladikoff Awsome work...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY2Yt1ATm4c

Other clips

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiO8CgGiWPM&feature=related

bmckain
6th Dec 2007, 09:40 PM
That is a neat video, I don't know anything about the books but the video is cool.

DELTA
6th Dec 2007, 10:22 PM
A.C. Clarke wrote Rendezvous with Rama, it sparked (next to star Wars. duh) my interest into Sci Fi, I loved how he wrote it... I believe there were 4 books... a must read... but the first book is by far the best...[/font]

bmckain
6th Dec 2007, 10:30 PM
Thanks, I'll look them up, haven't sat down and read a good book in a long time.

Mikala
6th Dec 2007, 10:53 PM
Books, Bob and they are all very good.

nemo
6th Dec 2007, 11:09 PM
Books, Bob and they are all very good.

They are excellent. Clarke is one of the greatest SF writers ever and Rama is one of his best, IMO. I first read it 31 years ago. With the advent of CGI, it's a prime candidate for a film version. As the film geeks say, "it's very high concept!"

John Marchant
7th Dec 2007, 01:13 AM
Well Arthur C Clarke is rather well known

Mook
7th Dec 2007, 01:39 AM
I've heard of this, think it would certainly make a good movie. A bunch of us here at the college I'm studying were thinking of banding together and making one, and that was one of the choices. I should really see what happened with that idea. It would have been heaps of fun.

infinityloop
7th Dec 2007, 03:24 AM
no clue why ppl like youtube...... pixels are as big as lego-bricks.....
the best video of the world simply looks horrible with this "quality".

an alternative is stage6.divx.com. they host your video in the same quality" you uploaded.
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GMD3D
7th Dec 2007, 04:06 AM
Morgan Freeman owns the film rights and has been tring for some years to make a move version ..

http://www.revelationsent.com/site/projects/in_development/rama.html

Rigel
7th Dec 2007, 06:05 AM
I read Rendezvous With Rama and it was one of my favourite SF books. I think I read the sequels and did not like them as much.

I have seen that second clip before (probably 2 to 3 years ago) and it is one of the best I've seen yet. Also, an interesting technique he used to create it.

By all means, Bob, check out this novel; it is a great read. Right up there with Ringworld.

DELTA
7th Dec 2007, 06:37 AM
I read Rendezvous With Rama and it was one of my favourite SF books. I think I read the sequels and did not like them as much.

I have seen that second clip before (probably 2 to 3 years ago) and it is one of the best I've seen yet. Also, an interesting technique he used to create it.



I think the first book was best because Arthur C Clarke wrote it by himself, and it was new. It pulled you thru it because it was a mistery, what was behind the next corner...
why was everything in threes? LOL Great... I have to dig it out and read it again...:D

It looks cool, but I don't think the rivers would handel the deceleration phase... a lot of things would get wet... lol

GMD3D
7th Dec 2007, 10:14 AM
I think the first book was best because Arthur C Clarke wrote it by himself, and it was new. It pulled you thru it because it was a mistery, what was behind the next corner...
why was everything in threes? LOL Great... I have to dig it out and read it again...:D

It looks cool, but I don't think the rivers would handel the deceleration phase... a lot of things would get wet... lol
It won all the sci-fi awards at the time I read it myself a number of times.. 252 pages of exploration of the unknown .. Highly recommend it. I like it more than 2001

deg3D
7th Dec 2007, 10:22 AM
Oh yeah, that was so cool! I read the book years ago (along with all the other master classics in sci-fi) and the sec I saw the game I bought and raced home to play it. Lotta fun. :)

Great little short there, thanks for the heads-up dude. :)

deg

JeffrySG
7th Dec 2007, 01:47 PM
that video is very cool! I guess the artist that created it now works for BluSky.

youtube quality really does suck though.... would have liked to see a better quality version.

Drell-7
7th Dec 2007, 04:14 PM
Thanks for pointing the way, Delta. I'd like to know how they got hold of the suits from Red Planet! Also, I think the filmmaker is a little unclear on Clarke's concept- things on Rama were named by Endeavor's crew for famialiar cities and locations on Earth-like the island of Manhatten in the Cylindrical Sea-but they weren't supposed to be actual copies of those landmarks! And there were no rivers or earthly terrains-the details were quite alien. But they got the 6 big cones at the "South Pole" right-and the starways at the "North Pole". Its an astonishing piece of 3-D work!

Redeyes
8th Dec 2007, 01:59 PM
I loved the book and it would be fantastic to see a movie version. (For my taste they could drop everything but the first book, I haven't liked anything he's written with Gentry Lee) Start with a shot of the reason for Spaceguard and follow the book from there.

Great videos, really whet's my appetite for a full movie!

Crook
8th Dec 2007, 02:24 PM
Rama is an incredible book, and it shows some truths that you don't read very often - that we're not the best at everything and we can't figure everything out. He made a mistake in the sequels I think, but as said above I think it was Gentry Lee's input that ruined it.This had that spark of cool and wonder about it and some good moments, like the walking down the corridor on all sides - a scene very reminiscent of 2001. Top Job A++ :D

Jorge El Grande
15th Jan 2008, 02:03 PM
Awesome video! Well done!

Puguglybonehead
11th Feb 2008, 07:45 PM
Rendezvous With Rama is one of those books I'd always wanted to see made into a movie. With today's talented crop of 3D artists, I think it would be entirely do-able. Since reading it in the late 70s, I've been a huge fan of 'Hard SF' and speculative fiction. Most of the stuff that passes for SF in movies today, hardly deserves the title. Aside from 'Contact' or 'Red Planet', oh and of course, 'Serenity', there's not been much.

Would love to see this one made into a decent motion picture. Would also like to see 'The Songs Of Distant Earth' as a feature film (one of my favorite Arthur C. Clarke stories). Would also like to see Joe Haldeman's 'The Forever War' done as a film or maybe Joan D. Vinge's 'Outcasts Of Heaven Belt'.

With so many great novels at their disposal, you've got to wonder why Hollywood seems so bankrupt for ideas these days?

Crook
12th Feb 2008, 09:51 AM
Would also like to see Joe Haldeman's 'The Forever War' done as a film

That should be burned (with acid) into the retinas of every major Hollywood studio's CEO. It is simply the finest sci-fi book that I have every read.

DELTA
31st Jan 2011, 11:20 AM
This should be in the WIP area but I had this thread started and just put it here...



http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/general/2011/01/261-31-497924_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/general/2011/01/261-31-497924.jpg)

GMD3D
31st Jan 2011, 02:31 PM
stunning work

Jedi2016
31st Jan 2011, 03:03 PM
The problem with that ship is trying to get across the sheer scale of the thing, especially from the inside.

3D_CG
1st Feb 2011, 11:50 AM
I have read all the books 3 or 5 times now

would be an awesome M O V I E .... yep

3D_CG
1st Feb 2011, 11:53 AM
I have built a bunch of rama models....

wow this is cool

I am not the only R A M A fan... wahoooooo

DELTA
1st Feb 2011, 12:37 PM
Here is some shots from a quick animation I am rendering... Hope you like... :)


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/general/2011/02/261-01-588921_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/general/2011/02/261-01-588921.jpg)

http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/general/2011/02/-01-5887993_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/general/2011/02/-01-5887993.jpg)

http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/general/2011/02/-01-5888001_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/general/2011/02/-01-5888001.jpg)

DELTA
1st Feb 2011, 12:46 PM
I have built a bunch of rama models....

wow this is cool

I am not the only R A M A fan... wahoooooo

Hay Michael,

your far from the only one...


Would love to see your models sometime...

DELTA
1st Feb 2011, 10:41 PM
Here is a quick anim I put together... hope you like it.

Rigel
2nd Feb 2011, 07:46 AM
Since this is turning into a w.i.p., I'm moving it over to the w.i.p. forums.

:)

DELTA
2nd Feb 2011, 08:06 AM
Thank you.

I need to re-read the first book again to get the measurements.... oh darn... :rolleyes:



At least you did not come over and zap me around with the pointy stick this time.... :p

3D_CG
2nd Feb 2011, 12:26 PM
will do some screen shots
and load em up

DELTA
2nd Feb 2011, 02:27 PM
will do some screen shots
and load em up

Very cool, I will not be offended if you post them on this thread.


Also, we still have to do lunch someday since you and I live so far apart...:)

Treybor
2nd Feb 2011, 08:12 PM
That's just too cool. I love the books.

Rigel
2nd Feb 2011, 10:14 PM
The animation looks like a good start.

3D_CG
3rd Feb 2011, 09:34 AM
cool avi man, ok the race is on, where did I put the darn keys at again....

DELTA
3rd Feb 2011, 10:58 AM
Can anyone tell me what area of the earth I used for the land map??? ;)



Hint


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/studio/2011/02/261-03-755850_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/studio/2011/02/261-03-755850.jpg)

3D_CG
3rd Feb 2011, 11:36 AM
Can anyone tell me what area of the earth I used for the land map??? ;)



Hint


http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/studio/2011/02/261-03-755850_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/studio/2011/02/261-03-755850.jpg)

I do not know
Please tell...
Did u uvmap the image ???

DELTA
3rd Feb 2011, 12:02 PM
it's just a quick cylindrical map around the inside surface, than I cut out most of the larger lakes. I am still deciding if I want to follow the Rama books or make a "Humanized Rama"?



http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/studio/2011/02/261-03-760877_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/studio/2011/02/261-03-760877.jpg)

3D_CG
3rd Feb 2011, 02:24 PM
Rama I and Rama III Models


45597


Rama I is in progress, 54km long and 16km dia, Rama III is the red one ... its a little bigger than Rama itself, I think the book said it was 3 times larger, have to find the info..

I was wondering I need to read the book, I think I have some areas highlighted to dimensions and details of the ship, At least Artur C. Clarke did really did be vary detailed in his books, thats why I really like all 4 books, I think i have read them at least 5 times now.... Very intersting and its hard to put them down... once u start reading them, I also bought them when they were released, I am suprised I did not accidentally get rid of them whaen i moved a few times, books are hard to toss away...u never know when a good book will come in handy ....hehe



Michael

DELTA
4th Feb 2011, 01:27 AM
Here's some cover art from the original game. If you have never read
Rendezvous with Rama you should read the text on the centerfold.

Bridge of the Norton
http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/studio/2011/02/-04-8078875_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/studio/2011/02/-04-8078875.jpg)


I love this set of panels
http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/studio/2011/02/-04-8078874_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/studio/2011/02/-04-8078874.jpg)http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/studio/2011/02/-04-8078873_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/studio/2011/02/-04-8078873.jpg)


The Endeavor
http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/studio/2011/02/261-04-838144_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/studio/2011/02/261-04-838144.jpg)


Cross section of Rama
http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/studio/2011/02/261-04-837909_tn.jpg (http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/studio/2011/02/261-04-837909.jpg)


Could you imagine a "good" first person Rama game today?

3D_CG
4th Feb 2011, 01:41 AM
Ok Were Did U Find Those Images.... Dont Make Come Over And Tell Your Mom...



What image is the middel one ????







:)

DELTA
4th Feb 2011, 04:28 AM
Ok Were Did U Find Those Images.... Dont Make Come Over And Tell Your Mom...



What image is the middel one ????







:)

I found them on line looking for more information...

Almost every image of the inside of Rama are different. :(

The middle images comes from the original RAMA text/gfc adventure... The cover art was the best thing about the game. :waa:

Jedi2016
5th Feb 2011, 08:09 AM
Here's what I got out of the books, in terms of interior detail:

I always got the impression that the northern hemicylinder is effectively empty.. just blank metal. With the exception of the lights and the small "cities" strewn about, I think there's only two or three of them. It's the southern hemisphere that has the pattern of different sections in it, and I think it's more like a random collection of different sized squares as opposed to something like farmland, and they weren't limited to the naturalistic colors of greens and browns. If it were me, I probably wouldn't use aerial photographs of our own planet to make the textures for it. The problem with all of the stuff in the ship in the first two books is that there's never any indication of what the various bits were for. Obviously, some earlier mission, but Clarke kept it intentionally vague.. the humans on the ship never knew what they were for, and the builders never told them.

That big wide painting you posted is probably the closest I've seen to someone getting across the scale of the ship. The cities actually look like cities, and I think it's helped out quite a bit by the low angle of the view.

I might try my hand at this sometime. My favorite book by my favorite author, after all. :)

DELTA
5th Feb 2011, 08:20 AM
To me, the first book was an adventure. everything after that was Survivor on Rama Island... Who could back stab who and get ahead... I would still have loved to live the first novel. I could see me flying Dragonfly. ;)

DELTA
10th Feb 2011, 07:27 AM
What a difference a few generations of computer technology makes... I am rendering the same animation on 2 computers, One is a old dell 1100B with an old bird chipping away at tablets and the other is my refurbished Asus UL50vt. I gave the old computer 100 hours head start, and the asus past it in 7 hours and 36 minutes. ;)

Rigel
10th Feb 2011, 07:59 AM
Give that bird an energy drink!

DELTA
10th Feb 2011, 08:02 AM
Give that bird an energy drink!


LOL I wish...

Bar
12th Mar 2011, 06:06 AM
A Rama Movie could be sooo brilliant...
And could also be done very badly in the wrong hands.
Morgan Freeman reckons it will be a struggle to make it.
But i think that means he is an enthusiast and wouldn't want it made wrong...

Jedi2016
12th Mar 2011, 09:16 AM
Morgan Freeman reckons it will be a struggle to make it.
The problem is that it's more of a cerebral book. It presents some very interesting ideas, and keeps the reader hooked from page one, but it's not particularly exciting. There's no real action to speak of.. no bad guys, no gunfights, etc. Nothing that they can make a Michael Bay movie out of. And the studios are scared to death of it because it goes against the grain of what's making all the money right now... comic book movies, video game movies, big explosions, remakes and reboots, and brainless stories that are only designed to get an audience in their seats for an hour and a half.

If a studio got a hold of this, they'd change the story around to make Rama the advance scout of an impending invasion, and the biots would be some kind of defense system for the ship, and our stalwart heroes would spend the whole moving running through corridors (which the real Rama doesn't even have) fighting for their lives with bazookas.

It's a pity, really. I think the only way this is going to get made today is as an independent film, budgeted by smaller studios or directly by the people making it. Then you have to worry about whether or not you can do the effects properly (which this will desperately need), which means hiring someone like ILM, Digital Domain, Weta, etc, which means lots and lots of money. Which is very hard to get without major studio backing.

Starbase1
12th Mar 2011, 12:46 PM
Yep, the studios are NEVER looking for the next big thing, they are far too busy trying to make last years big thing again.

Bar
12th Mar 2011, 12:54 PM
Yep, the studios are NEVER looking for the next big thing, they are far too busy trying to make last years big thing again.

And they wonder why they fail so badly...

DELTA
12th Mar 2011, 01:43 PM
And they wonder why they fail so badly...

I truly don't think they care...:td:


I would not mind a good adventure as long as it was done as A.C.C. had envisioned it...

As I said in earlier posts the first book was great and the rest became Surviver in Rama island...

Starbase1
12th Mar 2011, 04:46 PM
I truly don't think they care...:td:


I would not mind a good adventure as long as it was done as A.C.C. had envisioned it...
.

Well... I can't really argue with Jedi's comments, they are well made. I think the best argument in support of Delta's comment is 2001. With a truly great director, who gets it, and has vision, it could be great.

You can hand Harry Potter 47, part 3, to any jobbing idiot director and the fans would make it a financial success. How many directors could take a film where there is no dialog whatsoever for the first 20 minutes, (and long stretches of the rest of the film), where half of what dialogue there is is delivered by a machine, where deaths are in silence accompanied only by a graph and a beep, and make it something still hailed as a masterpiece 40 years later?

Jedi2016
12th Mar 2011, 07:11 PM
2001 is exactly the kind of movie that today's Hollywood will never make. It's the mindset of modern studios that are keeping films like Rama from being made.