And so it begins ...

[Elowan]

This project was begun on the old site and promised to be a long one. So far it's held to that promise. My (crazy) idea was to construct a 'set' depicting the discovery of another Ancient construction bay hidden away from the Ori et al beneath an ocean on an obcure planet and containing another Aurora-like ship (in this case The Lady in Red). It also has a smattering of my personal Antaran universe here and there.

This area has laid - undiscovered - for thousands of years but somehow an advanced SGI/SGA team has stumbled upon it.

The set is to be part original and part kit-bash using appropriate bits (with credit) obtained from other artists. It's as much a 'here's how I depcted that' as a W.I.P.

All work is done using LW 7.5d and PaintShop Pro. Any resemblance to anything existing - real or imaginary - is purely dumb luck.

The first thing to note is that this is a huge set/project as can be seen by the sizing boxes and the LiR in-situ:

[Elowan]

Additionally there will have to be some pipes and stuff for nut-cases like myself and others:

[Elowan]

The first order of the day - aside from laying out the floor and wall sizes and positions - was the partially tiled end wall. The textures - as seen in the close-up - obviously need work. The 3rd picture should help to visualize the scale.

[deg3D]

HEY HEY, there he is. Good to see ya E! :)

Lookin' good there my friend! ;)

deg

[Taranis]

Excellent layout and design ..

[Elowan]

Here's one of the first level doorway area. The Cargo bay Door is a freebie that should be available on Stefan Morrell's (Stonemason) site: http://stefan-morrell.com/index.htm. (http://stefan-morrell.com/index.htm)

His work is outstanding and was part of what inspired me to go nutters,

[no_mad11]

WOW Elowan that is some awesome work, love the details. Only suggestion I have, is to maybe make the hanger bay a bit wider, in order to add to the grand scale apperance. Love the use of major cache in one of the renders, it look real cool. Stonemason has some awesome stuff. Look forward to seeing some more.

[Elowan]

WOW Elowan that is some awesome work, love the details. Only suggestion I have, is to maybe make the hanger bay a bit wider, in order to add to the grand scale apperance. Love the use of major cache in one of the renders, it look real cool. Stonemason has some awesome stuff. Look forward to seeing some more.

I think making the floor a bit wider is probably a good idea. Maybe eliminate the right-hand wall to make it easier to do scenes as well.

[BillS]

If you weren't nuts before... Your there now :)


I LOVE IT!

[Artificial Imagination]

Lets see, its grungy looking, its detailed, its stargate...thats all the resons I need :D

Looking good so far Elowna, can't wait to see more :D

[TheGreatRaja]

be kewl to see its all together

[Elowan]

I'm still putzing to get those @##@$% wall tiles right!

[no_mad11]

I'm still putzing to get those @##@$% wall tiles right!

LOL! Know the feeling, that can really be a royal PITA! Why not use procedurals on the walls? That way the texture would look random & more realistic rather than trying to mess with a texture you're trying to get tiled properly. If you're interested, I have a few concrete & metal procedural textures I can send you. Let me know.

[Elowan]

Well as to that - I'll try it. They are tiles though not concrete so ...

I haven't got that much experience with Procedurals to date either.

[Rigel]

Hey Elowan, this is much advanced from the last time I saw it.

Nice work as always.

[Elowan]

Was able to produce a nice texture with what no-mad11 sent me. However - how do I add mortar lines? I would hate to have to model all the tiles.

I tried an alpha map for the mortar lines without success.

I shall soldier on but could use a few suggestions.

THnx

[Elowan]

Hey Elowan, this is much advanced from the last time I saw it.

Nice work as always.

Thnx but please remember that not all the objects you see are my originals. Some are by Stonemason - namely his Cargo Bay Door. Of course Picasso used real people as models but ... :point:

[Rigel]

Was able to produce a nice texture with what no-mad11 sent me. However - how do I add mortar lines? I would hate to have to model all the tiles.

I tried an alpha map for the mortar lines without success.

I shall soldier on but could use a few suggestions.

THnx

Play with the procedural texture called Grid. You can set the spacing between the lines as well as the thickness I believe. Put one on your diffuse or colour channel and the identical settings on bump to give them some depth.

[Rigel]

Thnx but please remember that not all the objects you see are my originals. Some are by Stonemason - namely his Cargo Bay Door. Of course Picasso used real people as models but ... :point:

True enough. But you are taking those bits and pieces and arranging them in an esthetic and pleasing manner to create an entirely new whole. Therefore, it is still your work. ;)

[no_mad11]

Was able to produce a nice texture with what no-mad11 sent me. However - how do I add mortar lines? I would hate to have to model all the tiles.

I tried an alpha map for the mortar lines without success.

I shall soldier on but could use a few suggestions.

THnx

I'd do exactly what Rigel suggested, that's how you'll be able to get the mortar lines you're looking for.

[Elowan]

Play with the procedural texture called Grid. You can set the spacing between the lines as well as the thickness I believe. Put one on your diffuse or colour channel and the identical settings on bump to give them some depth.

The texturing procedurals are also in those channels so do I put the 'grid' above or below the others?

[Mikala]

You can sometimes do it either way depending on how you decide they are going to affect the other layers...additive ,multiply what have you.
Glad to see you are still on this.

[Elowan]

OK! Here's how it turned out. I've attached an archive with the preset I used and in appreciation and in keeping with the season go here: http://www.savefile.com/files/1260048
and double click on DLed pps file. I learned a lot as well. Have to move the tiles down a bit.

[Rigel]

That looks Elowan.

[Elowan]

That looks Elowan.

Elowan? What does that look like? It doesn't look like me that's for sure.:D

[no_mad11]

That looks Elowan.

Elowan? What does that look like? It doesn't look like me that's for sure.:D


LOL.....I guess that's the new term for "that looks pretty good" :p
Glad you were able to get the mortar lines worked out.:tu:

[Bells of Freedom]

Wow, simply awesome work. I anxiously await it's progress . . . .


. . . . stil waiting . . . .

[TheGreatRaja]

Just one minor nit though, you'd think if your going to land something that big, you'd give it more error space :D

[Xiti]

This totally does look Elowan. Loving the detail, and the overall scale of this. Love to see updates ;)

[Elowan]

Just one minor nit though, you'd think if your going to land something that big, you'd give it more error space :D

The scene is of a construction bay not a landing bay. See msg #1.:tu:

[TheGreatRaja]

still you'd think they need more room :D
Looks great anyways

[brunoco]

Beautiful detailed work as usual. Hope you show us more...

[Rigel]

That looks Elowan.

Elowan? What does that look like? It doesn't look like me that's for sure.:D

That, sir, is called "brain getting ahead of fingers" syndrome. It happens to high speed touch typists as getting older causes the fingers to slow down, but hasn't quite had the same effect on the brain.

It is supposed to say looks GOOD! Good dammit, not Elowan! :)

[Rigel]

Just one minor nit though, you'd think if your going to land something that big, you'd give it more error space :D

Advanced technology in an advanced culture gives a precision of vector computation unseen in 21st century human technology, meaning, you can insert a large object into a small cavity without hitting anything. Or, because this is a construction dock, get said large object out without hitting things.

As long as you keep the booze and cheap drugs away from your helmsman. :)

[Elowan]

Another view of one area. The floor bump map needs to be toned down. As to floor width - I may widen it a bit but remember that this is supposed to be a construction faciity bored into solid rock beneath an ocean. The finished ship would be moved out on a trolley.

[today]

Another view of one area. The floor bump map needs to be toned down. As to floor width - I may widen it a bit but remember that this is supposed to be a construction faciity bored into solid rock beneath an ocean. The finished ship would be moved out on a trolley.
If you're using an image for the bump, you might try an actual photo of dried up dirt.. creates a very believable effect

[no_mad11]

Sweet looking update!

[Elowan]

Getting settled in Brewster NY. Will have some more stuff after the 9th.

[bfx]

Is this the Stuff.lwo object from the LW 8 Content disk?

Always wondered who did it but never checked.

bfx

[winston2020]

awesome

[Elowan]

Because of a distortion in the time-space continuum - this thread will be placed on hold until the distortion resets.;)

In the meantime I've been having visions of framework and tubes; lots of tubes.:eek:

Better duck Mikala.:p

[Mikala]

No problem I'm not that tall.

[Orian_Argus]

I like this
Great work

[andyatl]

wow, nice detail, how long did it take?

[Elowan]

wow, nice detail, how long did it take?

I never look at a clock when doing a mesh.

As I said - this WIP is on hold. The job in NY did not work out. Back in AZ