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Kerem · 3rd April 2012, 01:56 PM

Hello friends,

Got a new PC. A Core i5 - not the most amazing on the market but works fine so far. Except with Maya. I have Maya 2011. And I have to use it with Win7 x64's AERO style - yeah I know that sounds like nonsense but that's the truth about Maya working on Win7. If you use it on Basic or Classic, Hotbox doing funky things. I might post screen shot later.

Well anyway, I feel like I reached the Rubicon right now. So I'm thinking to go with another package. I tried 3ds Max for a while but just don't like it, not for me. I'm thinking to go back to Cinema 4D or go with Lightwave. Because a full featured C4D is as expensive as Max and Maya. I'm working part-time with an architectural office supplying me using Maya/Max but I want to go separate ways with them too.

I know many of you using Lightwave and doing amazing work with it. But it looks REALLY hard to learn - despite the famous slogan of Newtek "go ahead and make a scene". I think I can go ahead and make a mess with it instead

So you think I can handle learning Lightwave? Also I spend a lot of money for the learning material for Maya and Zbrush. I don't think I can buy that much tuts for LW - is there a free learning resource you guys can recommend?

Sorry for the rant and too many questions buried in one paragraph.

Thanks in advance!

Meurig · 3rd April 2012, 01:57 PM

I use Maya 2011 on windows 7 64 bit without any problems.

What are the issues you're having?

NanoGator · 3rd April 2012, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meurig

I use Maya 2011 on windows 7 64 bit without any problems.

What are the issues you're having?

Ditto.

Omnipotent · 3rd April 2012, 02:08 PM

id recomend Modo... but NOT 601...

Kerem · 3rd April 2012, 02:15 PM

Here's the issue I am having. I'm using Nvidia GT520 with most recent driver. Maya always offers new issues no matter what... I'm sure if I solve this one there'll be another one come up.

And that "glitch" stays in the screen while using hotbox so makes it impossible to read. But the VIEWCUBE is awesome! :-/

Woody · 3rd April 2012, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omnipotent

id recomend Modo... but NOT 601...

Can you give an explanation for this? I am using 501 right now and was recently considering the upgrade...but if it's got fatal flaws well, 501 does the job y'know?

@Kerem - Maya hates us, it's true. Have you tried rolling back to an older GPU driver? I bought a Quadro 2000 just for Maya, and it's still buggy from time to time.

Kerem · 3rd April 2012, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woody

@Kerem - Maya hates us, it's true. Have you tried rolling back to an older GPU driver? I bought a Quadro 2000 just for Maya, and it's still buggy from time to time.

Hey Woody! I actually started using it with driver comes with the computer (driver CD) and I updated after that glitch issue but nothings changed. It's really an awesome piece of c.. software

Omnipotent · 3rd April 2012, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woody

Can you give an explanation for this? I am using 501 right now and was recently considering the upgrade...but if it's got fatal flaws well, 501 does the job y'know?

wow... there have been so many issues.. some people have none others like me have em all.. have a look at the bug reports on the luxology board and decide for yourself bro but for me the money i spent on 601 pretty much went into the drain... so yeah ill probably stay with 501 for quite some time..

/seriously peeved luxology customer...

3D_CG · 3rd April 2012, 03:51 PM

man that Maya sure takes up a lot of screen real-estate..

wow

look at all those do-dads... cool

Kerem · 3rd April 2012, 03:52 PM

I'd wish it works without that much bugs...

Kerem · 3rd April 2012, 04:47 PM

Too bad to learn that LW is a bug master also...

rustythe1 · 3rd April 2012, 04:49 PM

Lightwave! , i see you use zbrush, lightwave has built in support for direct interchange between maya and z brush so you can still keep using your old apps as you learn!
best place for free stuff is william vaughans at newtek, a lot of videos and real easy to follow, i still refer back to them all the time, (even watched 3 of them today!)
ftp://ftp.newtek.com/multimedia/movi...eTraining.html

rustythe1 · 3rd April 2012, 04:51 PM

not to mention the demo is a fully working afair with just a water mark, there is also discovery edition that will work for ever but has a point limit. (think they are all the same installer but dont quote me, discovery and full definatly are)

Kerem · 3rd April 2012, 05:50 PM

@rustythe1: Supercool stuff! There are many tutorials there also with download option!

I usually concern about finding good learning resources - so many thanks for the link!

Omnipotent · 3rd April 2012, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VK08

601 had a service release already (Modo) and It works pretty much flawlessly on my end, I see all the bug reports but nothing Lux isn't trying to fix in relatively short order.

i know and said service release didnt really fix anything for me...

iczer · 3rd April 2012, 09:52 PM

I'm still using Maya 2008 on Mac, that I had from school. I have no problems, other then the problems that VK face

And its still stable; and for a school project I rendered out a animation as images, took 9 days straight ;-)

3D_CG · 4th April 2012, 01:17 PM

If I could afford Maya I would go for it..
Or 3dmax,
wow
I wonder if they would trade me???

Considering the $3000.00+, dollars i have spent on 3rd party plugs over the past 5 yrs..

BillS · 4th April 2012, 01:23 PM

Enroll in a night course.... Most students can get the academic versions for little or nothing.

Kerem · 4th April 2012, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3D_CG

If I could afford Maya I would go for it..
Or 3dmax,
wow
I wonder if they would trade me???

Considering the $3000.00+, dollars i have spent on 3rd party plugs over the past 5 yrs..

Turkish prices are worse 3500 euros for Max, 4500 euros for Maya.

3D_CG · 4th April 2012, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillS

Enroll in a night course.... Most students can get the academic versions for little or nothing.

They have those classes ... oh ... wow ... Hmmmmm ...

where is Delta when you need your coffee cup filled up???

iczer · 4th April 2012, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3D_CG

They have those classes ... oh ... wow ... Hmmmmm ...

It's how I bought Maya 2008, 3 yrs ago; took 3D animation classes, and paid $365 for Maya ;-)

3D_CG · 4th April 2012, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iczer

It's how I bought Maya 2008, 3 yrs ago; took 3D animation classes, and paid $365 for Maya ;-)

Who did u take classes from??

BillS · 4th April 2012, 08:20 PM

It doesn't matter what or where. As long as you are a student and have a student ID. Just looked doesn't cost a cent and is good for 3 years.

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet...12&id=14185424

Just pick your software.

Elowan · 4th April 2012, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VK08

...
LIghtwave, well............... where do I start on the issues..................... I've filed about 30 bug reports since 11 came out...

Which is why I still use 7.5d

Rigel · 4th April 2012, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillS

It doesn't matter what or where. As long as you are a student and have a student ID. Just looked doesn't cost a cent and is good for 3 years.

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet...12&id=14185424

Just pick your software.

I recently signed up for that, checking the box that I am unemployed (which I am) and I was able to get 3DS Max for Windows, Smoke and Sketch Book Pro for Mac, for free.

Kerem · 5th April 2012, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rigel

I recently signed up for that, checking the box that I am unemployed (which I am) and I was able to get 3DS Max for Windows, Smoke and Sketch Book Pro for Mac, for free.

I registered there too after I read this. I checked the same box with you. I'm downloading Max 2012... So it's totally free?!! Or putting watermarks to render or something?

Or is there a expiration date of the software?

Sorry about the twenty questions - but I'm excited. I think I can also download Mudbox.

Kerem · 5th April 2012, 09:05 AM

There mush be a catch though... I don't think they just give away their most expensive software to unemployed people (which also I actually am now)

JimCrafton · 5th April 2012, 02:04 PM

According to what I read on the site, it's a 3 year license for non-commercial usage only. Didn't say anything about watermarks. Sounds similar to what Side Effects software does with Houdini.

David cgc · 5th April 2012, 02:48 PM

It doesn't have watermarks, but saved objects, scenes, and what have you open with a dialog box telling you they're for noncommercial use whenever you open them in a version of Maya with a different license (either a paid educational version or the commercial version). That can get exciting when you have scenes that have a lot of stuff referenced in.

(When I was in school, a lot of the kids used the free student edition of Maya to work on things out of class, and we ended up with very complex scenes in our class projects)

3rd April 2012, 01:56 PM	#1
Kerem Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Cydonia / Mars Posts: 730	Maya Annoys Me A Lot! Hello friends, Got a new PC. A Core i5 - not the most amazing on the market but works fine so far. Except with Maya. I have Maya 2011. And I have to use it with Win7 x64's AERO style - yeah I know that sounds like nonsense but that's the truth about Maya working on Win7. If you use it on Basic or Classic, Hotbox doing funky things. I might post screen shot later. Well anyway, I feel like I reached the Rubicon right now. So I'm thinking to go with another package. I tried 3ds Max for a while but just don't like it, not for me. I'm thinking to go back to Cinema 4D or go with Lightwave. Because a full featured C4D is as expensive as Max and Maya. I'm working part-time with an architectural office supplying me using Maya/Max but I want to go separate ways with them too. I know many of you using Lightwave and doing amazing work with it. But it looks REALLY hard to learn - despite the famous slogan of Newtek "go ahead and make a scene". I think I can go ahead and make a mess with it instead So you think I can handle learning Lightwave? Also I spend a lot of money for the learning material for Maya and Zbrush. I don't think I can buy that much tuts for LW - is there a free learning resource you guys can recommend? Sorry for the rant and too many questions buried in one paragraph. Thanks in advance!
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3rd April 2012, 01:57 PM	#2
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3rd April 2012, 02:15 PM	#5
Kerem Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Cydonia / Mars Posts: 730	Here's the issue I am having. I'm using Nvidia GT520 with most recent driver. Maya always offers new issues no matter what... I'm sure if I solve this one there'll be another one come up. And that "glitch" stays in the screen while using hotbox so makes it impossible to read. But the VIEWCUBE is awesome! :-/ Attached Thumbnails
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Kerem Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Cydonia / Mars Posts: 730	I'd wish it works without that much bugs...
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3rd April 2012, 04:47 PM	#12
Kerem Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Cydonia / Mars Posts: 730	Too bad to learn that LW is a bug master also...
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3rd April 2012, 04:49 PM	#13
rustythe1 Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: wiltshire, england Posts: 1,271	Lightwave! , i see you use zbrush, lightwave has built in support for direct interchange between maya and z brush so you can still keep using your old apps as you learn! best place for free stuff is william vaughans at newtek, a lot of videos and real easy to follow, i still refer back to them all the time, (even watched 3 of them today!) ftp://ftp.newtek.com/multimedia/movi...eTraining.html
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3rd April 2012, 04:51 PM	#14
rustythe1 Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: wiltshire, england Posts: 1,271	not to mention the demo is a fully working afair with just a water mark, there is also discovery edition that will work for ever but has a point limit. (think they are all the same installer but dont quote me, discovery and full definatly are)
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3rd April 2012, 05:50 PM	#15
Kerem Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Cydonia / Mars Posts: 730	@rustythe1: Supercool stuff! There are many tutorials there also with download option! I usually concern about finding good learning resources - so many thanks for the link!
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3rd April 2012, 09:52 PM	#17
iczer Premiere Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 393	I'm still using Maya 2008 on Mac, that I had from school. I have no problems, other then the problems that VK face And its still stable; and for a school project I rendered out a animation as images, took 9 days straight ;-)

4th April 2012, 01:17 PM	#18
3D_CG Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spokane Washington, North Side in a quiet neighbor hood, Tell I start My Harley, Then its NOISY... Posts: 4,106	If I could afford Maya I would go for it.. Or 3dmax, wow I wonder if they would trade me??? Considering the $3000.00+, dollars i have spent on 3rd party plugs over the past 5 yrs..
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BillS Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Belleville, Ontario Posts: 10,387	It doesn't matter what or where. As long as you are a student and have a student ID. Just looked doesn't cost a cent and is good for 3 years. http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet...12&id=14185424 Just pick your software.
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5th April 2012, 09:05 AM	#28
Kerem Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Cydonia / Mars Posts: 730	There mush be a catch though... I don't think they just give away their most expensive software to unemployed people (which also I actually am now)
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