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Treybor · 9th April 2012, 08:57 PM

Cool. I'll take a look when I get home.

BillS · 9th April 2012, 09:07 PM

Alternately.... Once the UV's are done. Expand Texture Map. Click "New from UV Map" You'll get this rainbow texture on your model and a thumbnail of it. Click on the thumbnail and select the checkerboard (texture03) or import one of your choosing. As long as the "texture on" button is clicked it will show in the model display. Click it off to get rid of it.

Treybor · 9th April 2012, 09:11 PM

cool. Thanks Bill

Treybor · 10th April 2012, 09:54 PM

More texturing tests

Rigel · 10th April 2012, 09:55 PM

I like the first one best.

colbs · 10th April 2012, 10:38 PM

yeah the first one is best

Gordon Robb · 11th April 2012, 02:23 AM

First one for me also. Are you planning to render this only in Zbrush, or will you be looking to taker our out and plonk her into a scene in LW?

Afalk · 11th April 2012, 04:07 AM

Have to add my voice to the chorus on this one, the 1st one definitely is my favorite between the two but a blend between the two but still favoring the look of #1 would probably be ideal IMHO.

JimCrafton · 11th April 2012, 07:33 AM

definitely the first one. Looks great!

Mikala · 11th April 2012, 08:36 AM

Don't forget the pigeons!
"No statue is safe tonight!" said in a Danny DeVito voice.

Treybor · 11th April 2012, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JimCrafton

definitely the first one. Looks great!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afalk

Have to add my voice to the chorus on this one, the 1st one definitely is my favorite between the two but a blend between the two but still favoring the look of #1 would probably be ideal IMHO.

Quote:

Originally Posted by colbs

yeah the first one is best

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rigel

I like the first one best.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Robb

First one for me also. Are you planning to render this only in Zbrush, or will you be looking to taker our out and plonk her into a scene in LW?

Soooooooooooooo the first one it is.

Gordon, yes I intend to export to LW. But I may need to do some refining. The mesh is about 4.1 million polygons, and I still have never decimated a mesh in ZB, so that wil be my next step. Do you know, will I also need to export normal maps along with the UV maps?

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Originally Posted by Mikala

Don't forget the pigeons!
"No statue is safe tonight!" said in a Danny DeVito voice.

Well this is an inside statue, but if I can find some decent ref pics I might be able to do one with bird droppings....

JimCrafton · 11th April 2012, 02:29 PM

AFAIK you do NOT need to bother with normal maps if you're exporting to a renderer that can do true displacement. If this is not the case, or you chose not to use full displacements to save on memory, then yes, you will need normal maps. I think stuff for games almost always uses normal maps, whereas film quality stuff tends to use displacements.

Eden · 11th April 2012, 06:15 PM

Nice marble texture, discoloration of the first one is the best, you may also want to give it a very faint Roughness / due to natural wear and tear as marble is very porous

Gordon Robb · 12th April 2012, 02:25 AM

T: you have a lot of choices. Decimation master will do a great job of reducing your 4.1 million. I wouldn't be surprised if you got it down to less than 200K with no discernible loss of detail. Otherwise, your talking about re-topologising it (unless you still have a good base mesh in there somewhere). If you have a good base mesh, the normal approach (for speed of render, and overall look) would be to export the low poly, displacement maps to mid level, and normal maps for finer detail.

I would try decimation master first (save your hi poly copy though

)

Treybor · 12th April 2012, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Robb

T: you have a lot of choices. Decimation master will do a great job of reducing your 4.1 million. I wouldn't be surprised if you got it down to less than 200K with no discernible loss of detail. Otherwise, your talking about re-topologising it (unless you still have a good base mesh in there somewhere). If you have a good base mesh, the normal approach (for speed of render, and overall look) would be to export the low poly, displacement maps to mid level, and normal maps for finer detail.

I would try decimation master first (save your hi poly copy though

)

Thanks for the tips. I might not have anymore updates until the weekend. Trying to study ofr my Japanese classes.

starship · 17th April 2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Treybor

... Well this is an inside statue, but if I can find some decent ref pics I might be able to do one with bird droppings....

No... You must do De Vitto as Penguin!!!!

Treybor · 17th April 2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by starship

No... You must do De Vitto as Penguin!!!!

I'll put it on my to do list.... which has grown quite long at the moment....

Treybor · 14th August 2012, 12:51 AM

Been so busy with commission work that I've let personal projects slide... including learning z-brush, so I took a few hours tonight to just play... This is what I came up with.

Gordon Robb · 14th August 2012, 01:11 AM

Skulltastic!

Starbase1 · 14th August 2012, 01:11 AM

If that's just playing, I look forward with great anticiation to seeing you get serious!

Matt · 14th August 2012, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Starbase1

If that's just playing, I look forward with great anticiation to seeing you get serious!

DItto.

JimCrafton · 14th August 2012, 06:46 AM

Cool! Since you're an Alien fan, here's a thought - take the skull and forward(reverse?) engineer something like the Xeno or the Deacon, or better yet, something newer and even more fantastic! Just imagine it's been dipped like a nacho in magic black goo!

Treybor · 14th August 2012, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starbase1

If that's just playing, I look forward with great anticiation to seeing you get serious!

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattMan

DItto.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Robb

Skulltastic!

Thanks. With Dynamesh it was easier than I thought it would be.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimCrafton

Cool! Since you're an Alien fan, here's a thought - take the skull and forward(reverse?) engineer something like the Xeno or the Deacon, or better yet, something newer and even more fantastic! Just imagine it's been dipped like a nacho in magic black goo!

Oooo. Must try something tonight.

Treybor · 18th August 2012, 05:31 PM

Another morning spent playing around. About 2 1/2 hours. The only thing not hand sculpted was the ears... used the ear brush.

Going for the nubian look. The back of the head has some clay build-up I was going to use for an afro or dreads but not sure which.

Gordon Robb · 19th August 2012, 01:29 AM

Looks great love around the eyes. Not convinced by the join between the obicularis oris and the cheek area, but aside from that, looks great to me.

JimCrafton · 19th August 2012, 08:42 AM

Cool, like Gordon, I like the eyes, from the nose up looks good to me. The chin area seems a little weak(?), unfortunately I don't quite know how to explain it, maybe Gordon or Woody would know more?

bobakabob · 21st August 2012, 03:35 AM

Beautiful work on this thread, you really have a talent for sculpture. Modelling a head is no easy task especially one with personality.

Woody · 21st August 2012, 05:31 AM

Fun stuff Sean! Looks like everything is in the right spot. I agree that the maxilla portion of the face looks too concave. Also, work on the ears some if the mood strikes you. They actually make a good study and will improve your skills if you can sculpt a good set of ears.

Treybor · 22nd August 2012, 04:40 PM

Thanks for the votes of confidence... ZBrush is definitely a powerful tool... I just need more experience with it. Oh where does the time go....

Woody · 22nd August 2012, 06:28 PM

Down the ZBrush rabbit hole...

9th April 2012, 08:57 PM	#91
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9th April 2012, 09:07 PM	#92
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9th April 2012, 09:11 PM	#93
Treybor Asylum Inmate Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 4,338	cool. Thanks Bill
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10th April 2012, 09:54 PM	#94
Treybor Asylum Inmate Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 4,338	More texturing tests Attached Thumbnails
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10th April 2012, 09:55 PM	#95
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10th April 2012, 10:38 PM	#96
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11th April 2012, 02:23 AM	#97
Gordon Robb Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 5,374	First one for me also. Are you planning to render this only in Zbrush, or will you be looking to taker our out and plonk her into a scene in LW?

11th April 2012, 04:07 AM	#98
Afalk Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Chicagoland, USA Posts: 878	Have to add my voice to the chorus on this one, the 1st one definitely is my favorite between the two but a blend between the two but still favoring the look of #1 would probably be ideal IMHO.

11th April 2012, 07:33 AM	#99
JimCrafton Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,020	definitely the first one. Looks great!
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11th April 2012, 08:36 AM	#100
Mikala Premiere Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Vancouver Suburbs...Canada HW North Posts: 8,052	Don't forget the pigeons! "No statue is safe tonight!" said in a Danny DeVito voice.
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11th April 2012, 02:29 PM	#102
JimCrafton Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,020	AFAIK you do NOT need to bother with normal maps if you're exporting to a renderer that can do true displacement. If this is not the case, or you chose not to use full displacements to save on memory, then yes, you will need normal maps. I think stuff for games almost always uses normal maps, whereas film quality stuff tends to use displacements.
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11th April 2012, 06:15 PM	#103
Eden Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: united kingdom Posts: 751	Nice marble texture, discoloration of the first one is the best, you may also want to give it a very faint Roughness / due to natural wear and tear as marble is very porous
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12th April 2012, 02:25 AM	#104
Gordon Robb Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 5,374	T: you have a lot of choices. Decimation master will do a great job of reducing your 4.1 million. I wouldn't be surprised if you got it down to less than 200K with no discernible loss of detail. Otherwise, your talking about re-topologising it (unless you still have a good base mesh in there somewhere). If you have a good base mesh, the normal approach (for speed of render, and overall look) would be to export the low poly, displacement maps to mid level, and normal maps for finer detail. I would try decimation master first (save your hi poly copy though )

14th August 2012, 12:51 AM	#108
Treybor Asylum Inmate Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 4,338	Been so busy with commission work that I've let personal projects slide... including learning z-brush, so I took a few hours tonight to just play... This is what I came up with. Attached Thumbnails
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14th August 2012, 01:11 AM	#109
Gordon Robb Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 5,374	Skulltastic!

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14th August 2012, 06:46 AM	#112
JimCrafton Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,020	Cool! Since you're an Alien fan, here's a thought - take the skull and forward(reverse?) engineer something like the Xeno or the Deacon, or better yet, something newer and even more fantastic! Just imagine it's been dipped like a nacho in magic black goo!
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18th August 2012, 05:31 PM	#114
Treybor Asylum Inmate Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 4,338	Another morning spent playing around. About 2 1/2 hours. The only thing not hand sculpted was the ears... used the ear brush. Going for the nubian look. The back of the head has some clay build-up I was going to use for an afro or dreads but not sure which. Attached Thumbnails
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19th August 2012, 01:29 AM	#115
Gordon Robb Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 5,374	Looks great love around the eyes. Not convinced by the join between the obicularis oris and the cheek area, but aside from that, looks great to me.

19th August 2012, 08:42 AM	#116
JimCrafton Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,020	Cool, like Gordon, I like the eyes, from the nose up looks good to me. The chin area seems a little weak(?), unfortunately I don't quite know how to explain it, maybe Gordon or Woody would know more?
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21st August 2012, 03:35 AM	#117
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21st August 2012, 05:31 AM	#118
Woody Administrator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Foundation 3D Posts: 2,878	Fun stuff Sean! Looks like everything is in the right spot. I agree that the maxilla portion of the face looks too concave. Also, work on the ears some if the mood strikes you. They actually make a good study and will improve your skills if you can sculpt a good set of ears.
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22nd August 2012, 04:40 PM	#119
Treybor Asylum Inmate Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 4,338	Thanks for the votes of confidence... ZBrush is definitely a powerful tool... I just need more experience with it. Oh where does the time go....
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22nd August 2012, 06:28 PM	#120
Woody Administrator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Foundation 3D Posts: 2,878	Down the ZBrush rabbit hole...
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