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Old 1st Feb 2015, 02:02 PM   #1
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Default Misc - Peckham now and then

A new photography project!

I recently came across a book with some nice old photos of the area I live, Peckham. And I have decided to try and take matching photos now, and to pair them up for comparison.

Here's the first pair, 1905 and Now.

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Old 1st Feb 2015, 02:04 PM   #2
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And the second, 1953 and now.
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What a great idea. You should try and match the direction, for and height of shit as perfectly as pas, and have a wipe between the two kind of effect.
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Nice ideia !
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What a great idea. You should try and match the direction, for and height of shit as perfectly as pas, and have a wipe between the two kind of effect.
I may live in Peckham, but I think you mean shot!


Yes, this is very much a first pass. I lot of the old shots are not from ground level, which makes an exact match tricky. I will probably have several goes at each one. To start with I'm just tryoing to work out the angles, and where they orginals are located! (Some areas have changed a LOT!)

If I can match really well I think it could make a good video project, perhaps fading from the old shot, to a sepia version of the new shot, to a colour version of the new shhot.
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A couple more...

The one with the C&A shop is easily recognisable.

The other one I only spotted from the address - And the roof railings towards the right.

The old shop looks quite wonderful, you can't really say that about the current site.
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Brilliant and could be a great idea for the photo challenge.
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Cool project, interesting to see some of the changes that have happened, looking forward to seeing more.
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That's a cool idea!
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Thanks All, it was triggered by a friend doing a local history project. I'd really like to find some old photos of the canal that used to run between Peckham and Camberwell, but the only ones I can find so far are tiny...

It would also be cool to get some old photos of Nunhead cemetery. I thought that would be easy, but not so far...

Also a bit sad that so much of it looked better in the past - the old style Carters hatters, (photo above) looks magnificent compared to what is there now.
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A wonderful idea Nick!

I see they've made some slight technological advances in the past hundred years or so!

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Also a bit sad that so much of it looked better in the past - the old style Carters hatters, (photo above) looks magnificent compared to what is there now.
I was just thinking much the same. On the one hand its nice to see how things used to be, but it's also a bit depressing to see how deprived it is now.

Cool project though. Back when I worked on Shaftesbury avenue I remember seeing some photos of the street around the turn of the 20th century and aside from being black and white and the Picadilly sign being static rather than animated, it looked almost identical because all of the old theatres etc have been kept in the same style.
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Well, it's not all bad - the modern library is superb, noiyt just as an award winning design, but a library with a very impressive range of music ande graphic novels. We lost the canal between Pecklham and Camberwell, but most of it became long thin parks, with a couple of wonderfully odd bridges which make no sense at all unless you know they used to span water,,,

But the park used to have a lake, and was an area where people used to come in their finest clothes to promenade. It was the finest shopping area in south London for a long time, but now only the most passionate fan of black bananas or meat for goat curry would think so now.

Ah well, here's another one, with the pub I had my wedding reception in, going back 150 years. To get the angle better I need someone to look out for traffic!
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And another pair, I think this is the most successful so far...

I also took a separate shot of the faded sign on the side of the current building. I love the elaborate lettering on old signage.

And incidentally, I would have thought most people based in Europe could take on something like this - I'm less sure of the USA having less history...

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The Victoria Inn looks much nicer today I think.

You've been married a 150 years? Good on you!

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Two more old and new, one of the Crescent on Camberwell Grove, and one of an old store on Peckham Rye.

Unfortunately for the Crescent there are a bunch of big new trees blocking the original viewpoint!

The other one is tricky to match, but the way the corner is cut off has been preserved with the new building, and the roof tops to the left of the image are clearly the same too.

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A couple more near the southern end of the old main shopping stretch at Peckham Rye.
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Very cool.
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Last year i did a simalar sort of thing in Peterborough ,my topic was pubs in the city now and then .
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Last year i did a simalar sort of thing in Peterborough ,my topic was pubs in the city now and then .
Inside or outside?
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That's amazing. I love the one of the printing shop. Gave me a nostalgic feeling.
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Pictures from the outside ,sadly so few pubs remain ,Peterborough went through a huge development in the seventies in those days it was out with the old and in with the new wich of course meant faceless brick buildings with no character ,we lost 17th century coach houses to stainless steel and glass,criminal such a sad loss , now today if they were still here Peterborough would be a far more tourist destination .
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Thanks All, this is turning into a fun project, not least as I am learning a lot about the history of the area I live in. It's something I can do in small bursts, and does not need particularly good weather.

I'm also finding that it is seriously useful to use Google Street View before I head out with a camera to explore and match viewpoints.

I can see this ending up with it's own web site...
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Cool idea!

I love such stuff.
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Some more image pairs, this time along the road from Peckham to Camberwell. This bunch were greatly helped by some better quality old shots.

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These are really cool.

There's so little remaining of that first image it looks like a different area.
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These are really cool.

There's so little remaining of that first image it looks like a different area.
Thanks! Yes, I was not sure myself on the first one until I spotted the matching gate posts. I have some that are much more extreme, one of the end of my road from 300 years back when there was not even a road. I'm really struggling to work out the orientation on that one.

I've bought some very old maps, I'm tryiong to work out a good way to overlay them on a new one, such as google maps.
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A few more from yesterday.

2 of the grove tavern, one of which is essentially a zoomed in chunk of the other to show what matches, and one of a school at the bottom of my road. Note the tower to the right of both shots which confirms the match nicely.

I did another looking south from the Grove tavern, but with almost nothing that lines up, it feels like it does not count.
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Thanks Gordon!

If anyone else is interested in trying this, there seem to be a LOT of books covering different parts of the UK with the generic title of "Britain in Old Photographs"
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