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Do not share my content out side the F3D Content Manager without my permission. 9 64.29%
My content can be shared out side the F3D Content Manager with my permission. 1 7.14%
It doesn't matter to me. 4 28.57%
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Old 4th Nov 2019, 07:34 PM   #1
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This is of utmost importance to all member who provide content on F3D.

Today I was made aware of someone who has downloaded the entire F3D Resources and is making them available elsewhere without our permission or yours.

As most of you know we redesigned this site to give the content providers more control over how their work was shared.

At the time many legendary modelers had stopped sharing their work because they had little control over how it was released. The Content Manager was a way to allow you that control.

That has been circumvented by someone taking the last two years to download and then redistribute the resources.

I have already notified the person in question and asked him to stop this activity.
I know he has not gained permission from anyone at this point.

I need you to answer the questions in the pole.
And of course you are free to post your thoughts and concerns to this thread.
How you reply will determine how far I take this.

Please contact others who have not been on in a while to weigh in. It's important.

Thank you.
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Old 5th Nov 2019, 09:44 AM   #2
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Where is it going?
Is it being sold? Given away?
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Old 5th Nov 2019, 01:30 PM   #3
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What if he/she refuses ,
Is it game over ?
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Old 5th Nov 2019, 01:40 PM   #4
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@Starbase1

To this point I can't say he is selling it.
I also cannot rule it out

@David Webster
If you mean as in "nothing we can do"?
No, I can press it but how much good it would do it dependent on how many of you don't want it outside your control.

If it doesn't really matter to anyone then it would not be worth pursuing.
In which case each one would have to make demands on their own.
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Old 5th Nov 2019, 02:38 PM   #5
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I saw someone on one of the Facebook 3d groups saying something about archiving the resources from F3D. I was busy at the time and meant to read it properly when I had time but completely forgot about it until I saw this post.

I don't have much content of my own hosted here, just some nurnies I think. I am not too fussed if they are shared so long as they remain both credited to me and free of charge. That said, I totally understand any content creators who don't want their stuff shared far and wide. I'll go along with whatever you guys choose to do.

BTW, it's nice to see some activity here again.
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Old 5th Nov 2019, 06:28 PM   #6
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I never really thought it was reasonable to get very precious about how materials released on-line were used, whether it be modifications, redistribution or even, honestly, credit-stealing (though I respect and abide by the wishes of those that are). Releasing something into the world by definition meant I'd be giving up control over it, and my motivations for putting my models for download here was to make it so they'd be available to more people, not fewer.

It's been a while, but I expect that next time I put a model up for download, I'll just do what Chris Kuhn does and explicitly declare it public domain just to make things easier for everyone (I don't feel obligated to babysit every poly and texture I sent out, and others don't have to go chasing after clearances and rights if they're doing more than noodling around). If I'm not comfortable with what someone might do with something I make, then the only solution is really not to put it up at all, since in the end, once it leaves my computer, it's all on the honor system.
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It may well be that I leave it up to each of you but I feel it is worth asking.
It's more about community and how you choose.

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Old 5th Nov 2019, 09:53 PM   #8
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FWIW I agree with David and also voted "doesn't matter". Heck, I never released my ancient Starship Constellation model, and yet ten years later I still find renders of it all over the place with my credit stripped out.



It's just the nature of the 'net that once it's in the wild it's gonna get swiped. If someone wants to yoink my work without credit, I've decided to take it as a backhanded compliment that at least someone thought it was good enough to steal
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I voted it doesn't matter as the one model I ever released I just wanted it to be used far and wide. I do ask for credit, but I can't enforce that, but the community sorta enforces that.

However it is a shame that no one releases models any more, or no where near like they used to.

In this world, now, once it is in the wild, it is very hard to get back control. Not releasing is the only control.

I suppose it does come back to the people who released their models with the best of intentions and now find the rules have been violated.
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I went with the first. not getting credit was a minor issue though annoying, it's a simple enough request to fill. but distributing content from here is not good.
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It is just disrespectful, end of story. It is taking something that can provide the site with activity members and funding though premier as well as purchases through the store. It also divorces the items from the TOS and use parameters of the content.

I do not mind people using the stuff, it is the selling and profiteering that bothers me most. And likely this is what these will be used for the most. Yeah maybe a few will make some images animations with them.

Worse is some hobbiests might end up paying for them when they were free to begin with. Seen people selling dvds full of meshes or selling meshes stolen from places like trekmeshes on 3d model sales sites.
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Old 7th Nov 2019, 03:42 PM   #12
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I hope more of you will weigh in.

If you know those who gave up on me being away let them know about this and have them chime in. Really appreciate all the feedback on this one.
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