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Old 14th Apr 2017, 10:22 AM   #1
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Default Ghost in the machine movie

I went to see this in the cinema yesterday, and I'm still not sure what to make of it...

The casting of Scarlett Johanssen got a lot of attention beforehand, but I think she's OK in the role. Even though she does spend even more time than usual with her patent "Im worried but I don't want to talk about it" face on.

The look of the film is astonishing, particularly the futuristic city, which I found breathtaking. Use of light and colour is truly exceptional.

It's not a new story, it's very much assembled from big chunks of earlier stuff, including pretty much all the most iconic scenes and objects / vehicles. (excliuding tachikopma, which didn't make the eiorlier films either). Those familiar with earlier works will notice that many elements down to street layouts have been copied wholesale, (which is not a bad thing).

Chunks of soundtrack were also familiar (sorry, don't know artists), particularly the disconcerting choral works.

The section 9 team are largely undeveloped apart from Batou, Aramaki, and Togusa, (all impressively cast and played.)

I can't help but think though, that all the nods to the original are going to be wasted on new viewers, and unnesessary for others.

There are some changes, but they are OK, and fit well. The biggest is probably that The Major is a more obviously emotional character. They haven't dumbed it down, (which probably explains why some reviews found it confusing, there's a hell of a lot to fit into the running time), and it's probably best to avoid too much exposition.

I'd say the overall feel is very much of an updated BladeRunner.

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Problem for me has always been Johanssen in this role. Not so much the Asian versus Western thing, more that i dont think she is a very good actress and i think a more slight body frame is called for. Hell there are many fine Asian actresses who could have done it.

Visually it was quite beautiful and as you say modern Bladerunner, im not really into Anime and know nothing about GITS before this but it was visually good but some more character developement was needed especially for those of us who dont know the background to this.
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Seriously, hunt down the original, available dubbed (and well dubbed). When they can do episodes to build up characters, and take their time, it works really well. It's what got me into anime in the first place.
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I certainly will do after seeing the film. I have to wonder if they had had the time and budget what the Japanese would have made of this film.
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I certainly will do after seeing the film. I have to wonder if they had had the time and budget what the Japanese would have made of this film.
Here's REALLY telling chunk on youtube, lining up original vs new version scenes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oQsVUkVay4

I'd recommend starting with the Eglish dub of "innocence", stunning animation and kind of follows on from what you have seen. (Well, the ending in the revcent version was changed, but it fo0llows on from the priginal ending!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_...l_2:_Innocence
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Here's REALLY telling chunk on youtube, lining up original vs new version scenes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oQsVUkVay4

I'd recommend starting with the Eglish dub of "innocence", stunning animation and kind of follows on from what you have seen. (Well, the ending in the revcent version was changed, but it fo0llows on from the priginal ending!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_...l_2:_Innocence
Thanks for the links and will do.
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the reason the colour and light is so good was in a making of interview, they actually sampled 26 colours from the original animation, then programed special LED lights on set to use those colours throughout the entire film so it was only ever lit as the animation was
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Impressive.

I was also impressed when I first noticed the best anime have someone who i responsible for "colour". It really shows...
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