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Old 18th May 2017, 06:47 AM   #1
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Default CBS clamping down on Star Trek derivative works?

Hi all

I just wanted to share an experience with you. About 2 years ago I mocked up a T-Shirt design that was a riff on another one I saw, based on Biffs from Back to the Future T-Shirt, but with a Star Trek slant called Scotty's. The exercise was more of a challenge in inkscape to see if I could pull it off inside that tool. I was pretty happy with how it turned out so I put it up on Redbubble to see if any body else was interested in it, they weren't.

Roll forward to this week, out of the blue, or so I would have thought, redbubble contact me and say that they have been informed by the rights holders of Star Trek, CBS, that the image is violating their property, and redbubble took it down.

Then the next day CBS debut their first trailer for the next Star Trek TV Series, Discovery.

Coincidence?

I personally thought that there was enough parody/fair use in the image that it should survive infringement notice and possibly it could be fought and proven so, but I won't, it is not that big a deal.

I wonder has any one else around here seen or heard of any other clamp downs on any Star Trek related work, or was it just that, coincidence?
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Old 18th May 2017, 03:54 PM   #2
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CBS sued a fan film recently. They are clamping down on anyone using Star Trek.
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Old 18th May 2017, 05:03 PM   #3
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Big difference of most derivative work is you were selling it.

Most of what people here do is not under any perceived threat. Unless you are selling it and that in of itself is illegal.

That fan film was breaking the law and doing dubious crap with crowdfunded money. It was not a fan production but more of a business model to raise capital for another business.
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Old 18th May 2017, 05:41 PM   #4
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I saw a post on another forum observing that there's usually a crack-down when a new Trek series starts up; the one for Discovery might be mixed in with the Axanar debacle, but it could still be happening. It makes sense; if you've got a new show and want to have someone buy the Star Trek t-shirt license, for instance, they might not be as willing to pay if there are a bunch of bootlegs floating around diluting the market for the 'official' stuff.

Besides, if worse comes to worse, we just make like it's the 1980s and strip all the trademarked names off the covers.
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Big difference of most derivative work is you were selling it.

Most of what people here do is not under any perceived threat. Unless you are selling it and that in of itself is illegal.

That fan film was breaking the law and doing dubious crap with crowdfunded money. It was not a fan production but more of a business model to raise capital for another business.
I didn't even consider that. I was just thinking about the recent lawsuit not the selling of merchandise. I wonder if CBS will try to sue over the guys who sold the Of Gods and Men DVD?
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I didn't even consider that. I was just thinking about the recent lawsuit not the selling of merchandise. I wonder if CBS will try to sue over the guys who sold the Of Gods and Men DVD?
Dunno, I think they were only looking to cover costs only.
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It's not only CBS. Fox does the same thing with anything they can confirm has a direct link to Firefly.

Anyone remember this t-shirt?


It was created for the California Browncoats and sold really well, but from what I've been told, it got them in a lot of trouble.
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Is that your model Sean, its a shame you had to take it down.
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