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Old 27th Jan 2017, 07:47 PM   #1
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I've been inspired to model the Saturn V! So here's progress for the last month or so.

It occurred to me that folks might be interested in what I've been using for reference. So here are some links:

http://heroicrelics.org/index.html
http://www.apolloartifacts.com/comma...ervice_module/

Google for specific flight manuals from NASA (for example a12 SA507-flight manual in pdf form). Also use the term "inboard profile" will get you more bang for your buck than "blueprint" will.

For the LUT:
http://www.savethelut.org/maw/
http://www.capcomespace.net/dossiers.../floride/ASVC/

Reference models:
http://spacemodels.dk/saturnv.htm
http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/...ecraft-stack/&

Decals (useful for seeing where some of the little bits go)
http://mek.kosmo.cz/newware/nw142.htm

Anyhow, should anyone else get the bug, those where pretty helpful for me.

S-IC
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CSM
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Old 27th Jan 2017, 08:08 PM   #2
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More work on the S-II stage

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The IU

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Old 27th Jan 2017, 08:13 PM   #3
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Some initial LUT work

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Old 28th Jan 2017, 03:16 AM   #4
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Love the detail Jim and of course the subject.
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Old 28th Jan 2017, 10:32 AM   #5
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Thanks John!
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Old 28th Jan 2017, 11:28 AM   #6
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Lots of lovely detail there!
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Wonderful work on this. It's certainly the most detailed model I've ever seen.
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Old 29th Jan 2017, 10:43 AM   #8
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Thanks guys. There's a model on Turbosquid that has a similar level of detail (I think, I don't actually have it, just guessing from the pics).

If I was going to sell this, would it make sense to model even the internals, like the LH2/LOX tanks? I started to do this for the S-IC stage, but so have not bothered with the others. However I'm think that maybe it would make sense to do anyways?
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Old 29th Jan 2017, 01:42 PM   #9
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Thanks guys. There's a model on Turbosquid that has a similar level of detail (I think, I don't actually have it, just guessing from the pics).

If I was going to sell this, would it make sense to model even the internals, like the LH2/LOX tanks? I started to do this for the S-IC stage, but so have not bothered with the others. However I'm think that maybe it would make sense to do anyways?
I bought the one you are probably talking about, for a couple of illustrations in my N-1 book.
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Here's some more updates to the S-II stage, mostly just lots of little details...

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Old 29th Jan 2017, 06:32 PM   #11
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Couple more shots

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Polycount for this stage (without the engines) is around 455,000 polys. I'm guessing I'm going to have ot go back and figure out some places to trim the fat at some point. Trying to get all the stringers to look good has meany pretty heavy geometry for some of the tubes shapes like the interstages.
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That's really cool. I loved this ship as a kid
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Great work on this.
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Thanks, should have some more stuff to post later tonight or tomorrow.
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More work on the LUT, got the basic floor frames done for floors 30, 60, and 80. Supposedly after 80 it's the same thing, but the floor plans I have also give specific changes for some of the upper floors, but for the life of me, I can't figure out why or what the differences are.

Also got the initial stairs in place up to floor 80. After floor 80, both the floor frame, and the external wall framing is the same, as well as the stairs so it's pretty much copy/paste from here on out!

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couple more updates, started to flesh out the elevate and the mechanical room on level 360.

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More LUT updates, elevator tower is now ready, up to level 80. After level 80 it's just the same thing.

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some renders just for kicks.

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What's the poly count on that beast? So far?
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Around 550K polys. Most of the upper floors can be duplicated so I can use instances for those, which will save a lot. But I'd still bet it hits over 1 million polys.
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Work on the S-IVB stage with temp J2 engine standin:

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2nd attempt at a J2 engine, thanks to Chris Pennello (http://www.chrispennello.com/j2/) for taking pics of a beautiful J2 model given to his Grandfather. Much easier to see how things connect. Plus the PDF he provides has some invaluable illustrations in it.

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Wow does not cut it.
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I posted some J2 refs on my web old site, of the one in the London Science museum.

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Nick, thanks!

The thing with the J2 is that there is so much damned instrumentation/sensors, etc that it makes it much harder to figure out what parts go where.
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I hate doing rocket engines... All those twisty parts tucked in close together...
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Beautiful! Totally awesome job sir!
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More detailing on the S-IVB. Can't believe how tedious this can get!!!

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More detailing on the S-IVB. Can't believe how tedious this can get!!!
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Stick with it; the payoff is totally worth it!

Your comment reminds me of the time I decided to model the rivets on the MiG 3 plane I was building. I quickly regretted the decision, but I couldn't stop. The end result was totally worth it.

This is one of the most beautifully detailed models I've ever seen. So bore through the tedium and stick to it!
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Stick with it; the payoff is totally worth it!

Your comment reminds me of the time I decided to model the rivets on the MiG 3 plane I was building. I quickly regretted the decision, but I couldn't stop. The end result was totally worth it.

This is one of the most beautifully detailed models I've ever seen. So bore through the tedium and stick to it!
Likewise when I decided to do all the fine detail on the Lovell radio telescope at Jodrell bank with geometry, right down to the bolts...
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That certainly paid off well!
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Coming along very well! Any plans for what to do with it when you finish?
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