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Old 18th Jan 2017, 12:20 AM   #1
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I'm looking at getting a new 4K Blu-ray Player to replace my old LG unit - I would like to know of any recommendations you might have. The main choices are between a Panasonic, a Samsung or an XBOX One S. I'm currently leaning towards the XBOX, but any suggestions would be greatly appreciated...

Panasonic: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01...DnL&ref=plSrch

Samsung: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01...XAL&ref=plSrch
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Keep in mind there's no bitstreaming of uncompressed audio and no Dolby Atmos decoding (funny, since that's a "requirement" of 4k blu-ray spec).You can use PCM but you have to choose between Dolby and DTS and it converts everything - this is because the unit needs to be able to play Cortana and other system sounds. So you set your audio output universally and regardless of what you pick in the blu-ray menu you'll get whatever the system is downsampling to. If you just have a TV or a TV plus soundbar (hey, it's your trip, man), I wouldn't consider this a problem, but if you like your THX-certified Atmos/DTS:X/TrueHD/Master Audio/whatever, you're in for some disappointment.
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Keep in mind there's no bitstreaming of uncompressed audio and no Dolby Atmos decoding (funny, since that's a "requirement" of 4k blu-ray spec).You can use PCM but you have to choose between Dolby and DTS and it converts everything - this is because the unit needs to be able to play Cortana and other system sounds. So you set your audio output universally and regardless of what you pick in the blu-ray menu you'll get whatever the system is downsampling to. If you just have a TV or a TV plus soundbar (hey, it's your trip, man), I wouldn't consider this a problem, but if you like your THX-certified Atmos/DTS:X/TrueHD/Master Audio/whatever, you're in for some disappointment.
The TV has a Wharfedale sound bar, so it'll probably be fine. I'd love to get a decent sound system, but my other half will almost certainly object!

I'll have a look at a few other options, and maybe decide by the end of the month. Thanks ☺️
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Xbox One S is pretty good--it will be getting an update that will support bitstream audio to allow for Dolby Atmos/etc. pretty soon. I would recommend also getting the media remote, since otherwise it's very annoying to use the game controller.
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Xbox One S is pretty good--it will be getting an update that will support bitstream audio to allow for Dolby Atmos/etc. pretty soon. I would recommend also getting the media remote, since otherwise it's very annoying to use the game controller.
I'll believe it when I see it, but if he just has a soundbar anyway the whole argument means precisely **** all. He could plug in the equipment they use to mix the damn movie and it'd sound exactly the same

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I'll believe it when I see it, but if he just has a soundbar anyway the whole argument means precisely **** all. He could plug in the equipment they use to mix the damn movie and it'd sound exactly the same

[edit] oh come on, can't even curse here nowadays? [/edit]
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The only negative aspect of the new Samsung TV was the sound quality (according to most of the reviews), and that was the reason I got the sound bar. There's no subwoofer, but it's still produces very clear sound, and the Bluetooth connectivity is a nice bonus.

I might wait a while longer, as there's not a massive range of 4K Blu-ray movies out... may take the plunge once The Lord of The Rings comes out...
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What kind of sucks is that many movies aren't done at 4K--especially these days many movies are shot digitally and they often shoot at like 2K or 3K since most people won't notice the difference. Or even worse, Star Wars episode 2 and 3 were shot at only 1080p. LOTR was shot on film but I bet the FX were done at only 1080p if we're lucky.
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What kind of sucks is that many movies aren't done at 4K--especially these days many movies are shot digitally and they often shoot at like 2K or 3K since most people won't notice the difference. Or even worse, Star Wars episode 2 and 3 were shot at only 1080p. LOTR was shot on film but I bet the FX were done at only 1080p if we're lucky.
And TV episodes are even worse...

Babylon 5 was shot on film, but annoyingly all the CG was rendered at 4:3! Watch the DVDs, and you'll see what I mean (the CG is cropped, and looks hideous!)

I have Enterprise on Blu-ray, and most of the CG elements were rendered at 720p!

If I buy a 4K player tomorrow (and it will probably be the Panasonic), one of the first discs will be Deadpool. Beyond that, if good transfers of all the Tarantino movies become available, that'll be the next major purchase.
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OK, finally opted for the Panasonic, and the quality... WOW!!! Only have three discs so far (Deadpool, Kingsman and Ghostbusters), but have another four on the way!
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Still slowly building up my collection:

Deadpool
Fantastic Beasts and Where To Find Them
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Kingsman: The Secret Service
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Star Trek (2009)
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Got T2 Trainspotting pre-ordered and should get it in June, and might do the same for Logan... A wee bit annoyed that Rogue One wasn't released in 4K though, and had to settle for the crappy Blu-ray instead...
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I'm sure the "crappy" Blu-ray doesn't look all that bad on a 4K set.. lol.

My only complaint about moving to 4K is that they've effectively ditched 3D. So for new films, I can buy 3D Blu-rays, or 2D UHD, but never in the same box. And I have to hurry to buy a new TV soon, or I simply won't be able to get one with 3D, and I'm not quite ready to just give up on that. If you've seen Doctor Strange in 3D, you'll know what I'm talking about.
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I'm sure the "crappy" Blu-ray doesn't look all that bad on a 4K set.. lol.

My only complaint about moving to 4K is that they've effectively ditched 3D. So for new films, I can buy 3D Blu-rays, or 2D UHD, but never in the same box. And I have to hurry to buy a new TV soon, or I simply won't be able to get one with 3D, and I'm not quite ready to just give up on that. If you've seen Doctor Strange in 3D, you'll know what I'm talking about.
Don't get me wrong, Rogue One is certainly impressive... but it's the HDR present on 4K discs that can make all the difference. Deadpool in particular is considerably better on 4K compared to the standard Blu-ray release, and the IMAX footage in Star Trek Into Darkness is absolutely stunning. Also upgraded our Netflix subscription to the top tier 4K/HDR package, and Daredevil in particular is amazing!

To be honest, I never really got into 3D... Both TVs are 2D only (a 49" Samsung 4K HDR and a 37" Panasonic 1080p), and neither my wife or myself would go out of our way to see a 3D version of a particular movie.

From now on if there's a particular movie I want to buy on disc, I'll probably opt for the 4K release if the option is available.
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Yeah, I kind of forgot about HDR on the UHD discs.. oops.. lol.

I'm about to make the jump myself, mostly due to minor niggling issues with my current TV (I'll keep it, I'll just move it to another room). Piece by piece for now, I'm not sure how well my current receiver can work with 4K from the Playstation (it says it can, but it's vague on the details), and I'll probably start picking up some movies in 4K (I think Logan will be the first), and then see about getting something to actually play the discs, which is why I came into this thread in the first place.. hehe.
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Yeah, I kind of forgot about HDR on the UHD discs.. oops.. lol.

I'm about to make the jump myself, mostly due to minor niggling issues with my current TV (I'll keep it, I'll just move it to another room). Piece by piece for now, I'm not sure how well my current receiver can work with 4K from the Playstation (it says it can, but it's vague on the details), and I'll probably start picking up some movies in 4K (I think Logan will be the first), and then see about getting something to actually play the discs, which is why I came into this thread in the first place.. hehe.
I got the Panasonic player from a branch of PC World in Glasgow, and have been extremely impressed so far. I was going to go for the Samsung for the three free movie discs, but most of the online reviews were less than flattering.

I now have TWO 4K players as I recently picked up an XBOX One S for an exceptionally good price - have it hooked up to the bedroom TV just now, and use it for playing Mass Effect: Andromeda. Might see about getting a second 4K TV for the bedroom, but not anytime soon.

As far as TV recommendations go, I'd wholeheartedly recommend our Samsung... It did cost us close to 1000, but it features something called Quantum Dots which produces deep blacks and brilliant whites (provided the Dynamic Mode is enabled), yet is about half the price of an OLED set. My other half uses this to play games on her PS4 Pro, and the picture quality is just breathtaking!

P..S. - Just pre-ordered my copy of Logan on Amazon...
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