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Old 27th Nov 2017, 11:50 AM   #1
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Well here she is. As mentioned in my previous thread, I had longed to see JJS Enterprise reworked. With Alex's permission, I set to the task of redesigning her. I have to say, this proved to be way more work than I had hoped, but the end result is someting IM very happy with. The saucer section is pretty much the same , except for small windows. This was something that always bugged me in regards to scale. I thinnk she looks way bigger now. The enginerring section was the hardest to get the way I wanted. I'd take two steps forward in one way and fall behind two or three another. It nearly sent me insane hahaha ! The nacelles were pretty straight forward to correct dimensions. Lighting is a combination of standard and photometric lights with vray shadows. I had originally begun using mental ray and arch & design materials, but gave it the chop after not achieving the desired look. I did come up with a beautiful pearlesant finish with very cool spec and reflections, but found it too over the top. Vray gave me the chance to go to town on this and Im very happy now with the result. No shortage of tweaks I can tell you, and the use of the F Word came up rather often. Render after render........................ tweak after tweak. These renders here are really simply to show her off, so I did not put a lot of effeort into them. I comobined the seperate passes in After effects, added edge blur, some bloom and curves adjustment, but simple and quick. Im going to render out more more stylish shots in the week to come, so I hope you like it guys. I have not thought of making this available for download as yet, but I may consdier it at a later stage when I have tweak the shit out of it. Enjoy !
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Old 28th Nov 2017, 08:14 AM   #2
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WoW,
I have a lot of wallpapers now. THANK YOU.
Very nice.
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Old 28th Nov 2017, 11:06 AM   #3
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WoW,
I have a lot of wallpapers now. THANK YOU.
Very nice.
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haha, I'll take that a nice compliment. Starting the artsy fartsy render and comps now, so you be in for more mate.
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Old 28th Nov 2017, 01:29 PM   #4
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As i said, lovely renders. So what differences model wise are there from Alex's model. Sorry not up on the last JJ Prise, are there better refs now.
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Old 28th Nov 2017, 02:01 PM   #5
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here you go Johnny
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Old 28th Nov 2017, 02:07 PM   #6
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this image is not of the one I did in 3d This was a photshop job just see how it moght look. It is slightly different
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I never was a big fan of the JJPrise but I like your version.
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Well at least the nacelles are better now as they are further away from the main hull. I never understood why they did that if you look at how these imaginary things are actually supposed to work.

Nice work there Marty.
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I never was a big fan of the JJPrise but I like your version.
Thanks buddy.So ?................. have I made you a fan now ?
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I never really liked the JJ-prise. The proportions just seemed so off, like a mish-mash of all the E's over the years.
You have really made this ship look beautiful. Fantastic work!
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I never really liked the JJ-prise. The proportions just seemed so off, like a mish-mash of all the E's over the years.
You have really made this ship look beautiful. Fantastic work!
Ma Man Now that's what I want to hear. As much I loved the JJprise for some reasons, the proportions killed it all. I had wanted to do this for sometime, and Im just glad I took my time doing it. I reckon there 500 hours plus in this project and It's paid off. I'm still fine tuning it at this point. So many little things to address and finess.Appreciate the comments mate. Many thanks. More renders to come
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I like the changes. Makes the ship look better.
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Still not a huge fan of the JJprise either. But I do like the renders, man. Good job on the conversion and rendering. That looks very different from renders out of 3DS Max with V-ray as opposed to Mental Ray. Very clean and precise.

I have the old Intrepid model from the NX era that still kicking around on my HDD. I never finished it. Not sure if I should upgrade my Max from 2011 to 2018, since I have to relearn almost everything again anyways. I'm used to MR and it's materials. But it's been years, so relearning something new could be as productive and not many people to ask about 3DS Max at F3D.

Thanks man, great job on this re-work. It's growing on me a bit, but still wish they'd done the design a bit differently.
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Still not a huge fan of the JJprise either. But I do like the renders, man. Good job on the conversion and rendering. That looks very different from renders out of 3DS Max with V-ray as opposed to Mental Ray. Very clean and precise.

I have the old Intrepid model from the NX era that still kicking around on my HDD. I never finished it. Not sure if I should upgrade my Max from 2011 to 2018, since I have to relearn almost everything again anyways. I'm used to MR and it's materials. But it's been years, so relearning something new could be as productive and not many people to ask about 3DS Max at F3D.

Thanks man, great job on this re-work. It's growing on me a bit, but still wish they'd done the design a bit differently.
I dig where you're coming from. Horses for courses mate. Everybody like something differnt. People loved Gabe Koerners redesin, but I sure did not. Have you seen that guy online who wrote to Paramount demanding they use his redesign, saying it was fantastic. Its bloody aewful hahaha. The biggest turn around for me using vray over mental ray, was materials. Where MR has specular etc, Vray does not, and there is not a lot of info out there of how to achieve a similar look. Half the reason it took me so long to do this model was not just the geometry changes but the materials. It was a slow and painful process which continually ot close to what I wanted and then suddenly nothing like, and that went on for weeks................... and right now is till going on. Since the renders above, I have made many changes............. not big ones , but lots of little ones. Im still trying to get the material look I want. Im 80 percent happy, but will continue tweaking, cheers buddy and good luck with yours.
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I dig where you're coming from. Horses for courses mate. Everybody like something differnt. People loved Gabe Koerners redesin, but I sure did not. Have you seen that guy online who wrote to Paramount demanding they use his redesign, saying it was fantastic. Its bloody aewful hahaha. The biggest turn around for me using vray over mental ray, was materials. Where MR has specular etc, Vray does not, and there is not a lot of info out there of how to achieve a similar look. Half the reason it took me so long to do this model was not just the geometry changes but the materials. It was a slow and painful process which continually ot close to what I wanted and then suddenly nothing like, and that went on for weeks................... and right now is till going on. Since the renders above, I have made many changes............. not big ones , but lots of little ones. Im still trying to get the material look I want. Im 80 percent happy, but will continue tweaking, cheers buddy and good luck with yours.
I just looked that model up. Looks more the the 'A' model and closer to the classic look than JJ's Enterprise, but the nacelles and some of things reminds me of MKF's re-imagined Enterprise.

I personally like MKF's over JJ's or the one you just mentioned.

Man, I'm not looking forward to redoing textures for my Enterprise or new ones for the intrepid. I'm terrible at textures.

Good luck with the hunt on getting those last tweaks in. Always something to fiddle with to make it look even better.
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