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Pete Paterson · 4th April 2012, 02:01 AM

Missed this first time round, gobb smacking build.

scott2753 · 23rd January 2013, 07:41 PM

FINALLY getting around to updating this some... concentrating on the structure right now, and I think I'm going to revamp the textures using bodypaint.

Kippa · 23rd January 2013, 08:10 PM

When I first saw what you have modeled I thought that you worked for the company that made the sfx and that this was the version used in the film. It is truely amazing what you have done.

scott2753 · 23rd January 2013, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kippa

When I first saw what you have modeled I thought that you worked for the company that made the sfx and that this was the version used in the film. It is truely amazing what you have done.

Wow, well thank you very much, I wish I was lol, working for MPC would be a DREAM job!

Kippa · 23rd January 2013, 09:19 PM

With your quality of work they should be working for you.

Rigel · 23rd January 2013, 09:56 PM

Good to see you back at it. The model is looking amazing.

Afalk · 24th January 2013, 04:27 AM

That model is flat out stunning, just pulled up your latest update, and my jaw hit the floor. Very impressive!

scott2753 · 24th January 2013, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rigel

Good to see you back at it. The model is looking amazing.

Thanks! Yeah been so busy it's been hard to do anything for "myself"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afalk

That model is flat out stunning, just pulled up your latest update, and my jaw hit the floor. Very impressive!

Thank you Afalk!

bmckain · 24th January 2013, 07:11 AM

Dang, that's sweet!

scott2753 · 24th January 2013, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bmckain

Dang, that's sweet!

Thanks Bob!

tension69 · 24th January 2013, 07:55 AM

Fook me (is that okay?) Awesome detail, eye candy overload

Starbase1 · 24th January 2013, 08:02 AM

Also, that's a really odd render style, makes it look almost like an engraving. (particularly on smaller images). Its a cool effect - how did you do it?!?

Tony Gardner · 24th January 2013, 12:49 PM

That is a really sweet looking model.

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Originally Posted by Starbase1

Also, that's a really odd render style, makes it look almost like an engraving. (particularly on smaller images). Its a cool effect - how did you do it?!?

It's an Ambient Occlusion render (at least I think it is), Meurig has a tutorial here on how to do it in Lightwave.

scott2753 · 24th January 2013, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tension69

Fook me (is that okay?) Awesome detail, eye candy overload

LOL thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starbase1

Also, that's a really odd render style, makes it look almost like an engraving. (particularly on smaller images). Its a cool effect - how did you do it?!?

Thanks, it's simply a custom Ambient Occlusion render. Pure white material added to the structure and to the environment, then custom settings (ray length & accuracy) in the AO tab in render effects settings on C4D. It helps to see the detail a bit better when running a test render.

scott2753 · 24th January 2013, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Gardner

That is a really sweet looking model.

It's an Ambient Occlusion render (at least I think it is), Meurig has a tutorial here on how to do it in Lightwave.

Yep! I was just in the process of answering that, but you hit the nail on the head lol! AO render, custom settings to make the detail pop.

scott2753 · 24th January 2013, 03:48 PM

Okay, here we go. My one big issue with this ship has been the lighting - my "White Whale" so to speak... How do you light a ship as they had it, yet keep it in the dark most of the time...

The answer has been to go back to the movie, and examine CLOSELY nothing but the lighting. I think this go 'round with the lighting is on the right track. One thing I noticed this time in the movie is that the top lights on the framework are NOT flood lights or even simple bulb lights. They are light bars, that essentially look like over-sized industrial florescent lamps to be honest.

So what do you guys think? On the right track? Mind you there are not any materials yet... I want to get the lighting as close to what is in the movie as possible so that I can get the color and style of my materials correct in that lighting.

bmckain · 24th January 2013, 05:17 PM

Yep, I like where you are headed. You might want to check out the Helios by JasonT. It has a really good light rig and may give you some ideas.

http://www.foundation3d.com/index.ph...p13_fileid=685

Meurig · 24th January 2013, 07:17 PM

That light setup looks great, I really like it.

scott2753 · 24th January 2013, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmckain

Yep, I like where you are headed. You might want to check out the Helios by JasonT. It has a really good light rig and may give you some ideas.

http://www.foundation3d.com/index.ph...p13_fileid=685

Sweet! Thanks since it's a download I'll have to check it out I hope tomorrow. Though LW light rigs don't translate too well to C4D. C4D opens LW just fine, but the lights always come out maxed out and weird lol.

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Originally Posted by Meurig

That light setup looks great, I really like it.

Thanks mate! I really do appreciate that

Rigel · 24th January 2013, 09:32 PM

The light rig is very effective. It gives the ship the appearance of an industrial site at night.

scott2753 · 24th January 2013, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rigel

The light rig is very effective. It gives the ship the appearance of an industrial site at night.

Thanks Rigel, that's what I'm hoping to aim for

scott2753 · 24th January 2013, 10:18 PM

Well here's the last update for this evening before I crash for the night, a few minor tweaks on the lighting, and started moving both forward and aft with the lighting. Not too sure about the ring of lights around the airlock....

Treybor · 25th January 2013, 12:21 AM

Thats really sweet work Scott.

scott2753 · 25th January 2013, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Treybor

Thats really sweet work Scott.

Thanks Treybor!

Afalk · 25th January 2013, 04:19 AM

I like where you're heading with the lighting on this, very nice. have to agree that the airlock lighting seems too isolated from the rest, but it still looks right, there just needs to be some lighting to connect it to the rest of the ship a bit more.

Rigel · 25th January 2013, 06:59 AM

You know what that last shot looks like to me? Cold, very, very cold. It makes me think of the Antarctic research bases.

scott2753 · 25th January 2013, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afalk

I like where you're heading with the lighting on this, very nice. have to agree that the airlock lighting seems too isolated from the rest, but it still looks right, there just needs to be some lighting to connect it to the rest of the ship a bit more.

Thank you. Well I will not really be putting in any lighting they didn't have, trying for authenticity really, and the overall ship was dark, really dark. Parts slipping off into blackness. I think it was intentional on their part in the movie to emphasize the isolation and distance from any other human or help for that matter.

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Originally Posted by Rigel

You know what that last shot looks like to me? Cold, very, very cold. It makes me think of the Antarctic research bases.

Thanks! Or.... the cold, the utter cold of space lol! Quote from Corrie in the movie, "...without suits? It's minus 275 degrees!"

bmckain · 25th January 2013, 08:59 AM

That looks really good, imo. I Like the lights on the airlock and I think as you add more lights to the rig they should blend in ok.

scott2753 · 25th January 2013, 12:34 PM

Another update on the lighting, going slow, but I'm trying to be accurate. I hate bad lighting lol, it can throw a whole scene off! (I've been guilty of that a time or two :P )

scott2753 · 25th January 2013, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bmckain

That looks really good, imo. I Like the lights on the airlock and I think as you add more lights to the rig they should blend in ok.

Thank you very much! Yep, fillin' in those lights

4th April 2012, 02:01 AM	#181
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23rd January 2013, 07:41 PM	#182
scott2753 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: St Petersburg FL. USA Posts: 336	At long last - an UPDATE! FINALLY getting around to updating this some... concentrating on the structure right now, and I think I'm going to revamp the textures using bodypaint. Attached Thumbnails
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23rd January 2013, 08:10 PM	#183
Kippa Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 100	When I first saw what you have modeled I thought that you worked for the company that made the sfx and that this was the version used in the film. It is truely amazing what you have done.
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23rd January 2013, 09:19 PM	#185
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23rd January 2013, 09:56 PM	#186
Rigel Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London (the other one, in Canada) Posts: 17,499	Good to see you back at it. The model is looking amazing.
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24th January 2013, 04:27 AM	#187
Afalk Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Chicagoland, USA Posts: 868	That model is flat out stunning, just pulled up your latest update, and my jaw hit the floor. Very impressive!

24th January 2013, 07:11 AM	#189
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24th January 2013, 07:55 AM	#191
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24th January 2013, 08:02 AM	#192
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24th January 2013, 03:48 PM	#196
scott2753 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: St Petersburg FL. USA Posts: 336	'Nutha update Okay, here we go. My one big issue with this ship has been the lighting - my "White Whale" so to speak... How do you light a ship as they had it, yet keep it in the dark most of the time... The answer has been to go back to the movie, and examine CLOSELY nothing but the lighting. I think this go 'round with the lighting is on the right track. One thing I noticed this time in the movie is that the top lights on the framework are NOT flood lights or even simple bulb lights. They are light bars, that essentially look like over-sized industrial florescent lamps to be honest. So what do you guys think? On the right track? Mind you there are not any materials yet... I want to get the lighting as close to what is in the movie as possible so that I can get the color and style of my materials correct in that lighting. Attached Thumbnails
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24th January 2013, 05:17 PM	#197
bmckain Wire Junkie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boise, ID. USA Posts: 15,147	Yep, I like where you are headed. You might want to check out the Helios by JasonT. It has a really good light rig and may give you some ideas. http://www.foundation3d.com/index.ph...p13_fileid=685
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24th January 2013, 07:17 PM	#198
Meurig Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 4,550	That light setup looks great, I really like it.
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24th January 2013, 09:32 PM	#200
Rigel Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London (the other one, in Canada) Posts: 17,499	The light rig is very effective. It gives the ship the appearance of an industrial site at night.
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24th January 2013, 10:18 PM	#202
scott2753 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: St Petersburg FL. USA Posts: 336	More Lighting Well here's the last update for this evening before I crash for the night, a few minor tweaks on the lighting, and started moving both forward and aft with the lighting. Not too sure about the ring of lights around the airlock.... Attached Thumbnails
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25th January 2013, 12:21 AM	#203
Treybor Asylum Inmate Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 4,334	Thats really sweet work Scott.
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25th January 2013, 04:19 AM	#205
Afalk Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Chicagoland, USA Posts: 868	I like where you're heading with the lighting on this, very nice. have to agree that the airlock lighting seems too isolated from the rest, but it still looks right, there just needs to be some lighting to connect it to the rest of the ship a bit more.

25th January 2013, 06:59 AM	#206
Rigel Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London (the other one, in Canada) Posts: 17,499	You know what that last shot looks like to me? Cold, very, very cold. It makes me think of the Antarctic research bases.
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25th January 2013, 08:59 AM	#208
bmckain Wire Junkie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boise, ID. USA Posts: 15,147	That looks really good, imo. I Like the lights on the airlock and I think as you add more lights to the rig they should blend in ok.
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25th January 2013, 12:34 PM	#209
scott2753 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: St Petersburg FL. USA Posts: 336	Another update on the lighting, going slow, but I'm trying to be accurate. I hate bad lighting lol, it can throw a whole scene off! (I've been guilty of that a time or two :P ) Attached Thumbnails
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