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Treybor · 31st August 2008, 01:37 PM

A) Looks great!
B) doesn't have to look EXACTLY like mine.

Mikala · 31st August 2008, 01:39 PM

Looking mighty pretty Rigel

Epiphany · 31st August 2008, 01:43 PM

Way Cool

Mook · 31st August 2008, 05:05 PM

Looking very nice mate. Where's the subscribe button...?
I wouldn't worry about not like identical to Sean's, my stuff never looks identical to my reference either.

A little bit of creative license is good for you!

Rigel · 31st August 2008, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Treybor

A) Looks great!
B) doesn't have to look EXACTLY like mine.

*whew* That's a relief!

And thank you for the kind comments.

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Originally Posted by Mikala

Looking mighty pretty Rigel

Thank you kindly.

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Originally Posted by Epiphany

Way Cool

And thank you to you too.

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Originally Posted by Mook

Looking very nice mate. Where's the subscribe button...?
I wouldn't worry about not like identical to Sean's, my stuff never looks identical to my reference either.

A little bit of creative license is good for you!

Thanks Mook. Glad to see you're back.

Rigel · 31st August 2008, 09:32 PM

I came up with a name for my Firefly class freighter.

Lady Bug!

piaw chong in Chinese

Below are three graphics of the ship's name plate. The only difference is the font used on the English name.

Up top is a poll. Please vote on which font you prefer and after a week or so, I'll make my final decision on it.

Rigel · 1st September 2008, 09:52 PM

Busy day tomorrow, getting ready to go on a vacation trip for 5 days. Then I'm leaving Wednesday morning and not back until Sunday.

Updates will resume once I return.

Treybor · 2nd September 2008, 12:31 AM

I like the third

Rigel · 9th September 2008, 07:23 PM

Thank you everyone who voted on the ship's name graphic. The third one is the winner! I was leaning towards that one anyways.

I worked through Part 5 today (inbetween studying Cash Flow Statements and going to school).

Epiphany · 9th September 2008, 07:36 PM

Way Cool

I have restarted this thing so many times that I get a pop-up from modeller that says

"OH NO, Please not again"

Rigel · 9th September 2008, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Epiphany

Way Cool

I have restarted this thing so many times that I get a pop-up from modeller that says

"OH NO, Please not again"

LOL

Don't feel bad. I've been building CG models for -- geez has it really been 16 years?? Boo-yah!

I also started with Lightwave's predecessor called VideoScape, in which you built a model by writing a list of 3D coordinates (one set for each point) then wrote a list for which points made up each polygon. Tedious, but it really drove home the concept of 3D coordinate systems.

I also have 28+ years of building physical models; kits, kit bash and scratch built. While the manual skills don't resemble anything done in CG, that does give me a lot of experience in seeing how things go together.

Nonetheless, my CG skills still leave much to be desired. Keep practicing and it will come.

Treybor · 10th September 2008, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Epiphany

Way Cool

I have restarted this thing so many times that I get a pop-up from modeller that says

"OH NO, Please not again"

Don't get discouraged. It takes time and practice. Believe me.... I know first hand what it means to have to force feed LW.

Raffs · 10th September 2008, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rigel

LOL

Don't feel bad. I've been building CG models for -- geez has it really been 16 years?? Boo-yah!

I also started with Lightwave's predecessor called VideoScape, in which you built a model by writing a list of 3D coordinates (one set for each point) then wrote a list for which points made up each polygon. Tedious, but it really drove home the concept of 3D coordinate systems.

I also have 28+ years of building physical models; kits, kit bash and scratch built. While the manual skills don't resemble anything done in CG, that does give me a lot of experience in seeing how things go together.

Nonetheless, my CG skills still leave much to be desired. Keep practicing and it will come.

Looking good mate

and i know what you mean about building kits it really does help with how things go togeather. I started out with Imagine on the Amiga with a massive 2meg of ram ahhh those were the days.

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Originally Posted by Epiphany

Way Cool

I have restarted this thing so many times that I get a pop-up from modeller that says

"OH NO, Please not again"

I got stuck were the hull translates into the neck after about 20 goes it got filed in the " I'll pick this up later" section

BillS · 10th September 2008, 06:19 PM

GO VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!! CLICK HERE.

Rigel · 10th September 2008, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BillS

GO VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!! CLICK HERE.

I did! Stop shouting!

Rigel · 10th September 2008, 09:31 PM

@Raffs - thanks mate!

I worked through part 6a this evening.

For the regulator platform on the bottom and the indented detail on the top, I cut out those sections, deleted the triangles, rebuilt the polygons, then put the details back in. The overlap between details and triangles on the sides wasn't great enough to warrant this "plastic surgery" in those areas.

Also, revisited the retro-rockets and shaved 52 thousand polys out of them.

darthviper107 · 10th September 2008, 10:00 PM

That's pretty good. Has anyone ever noticed how the reactor flaps can't actually open? They each have two hinges on a curved hull, to actually flip open--the hinges would pull the flaps in half.

Lee Medcalf · 11th September 2008, 03:26 AM

Rigel this is looking pretty damn cool... Nice work sir.... keep those updates rolling

Rigel · 11th September 2008, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by darthviper107

That's pretty good. Has anyone ever noticed how the reactor flaps can't actually open? They each have two hinges on a curved hull, to actually flip open--the hinges would pull the flaps in half.

I noticed that the first time I downloaded Treybor's tv version of Serenity and started to rig it. Ideally the shutter should have just one hinge in the middle, but, oh well. I think I mentioned this in the tutorial chapter on rigging and animating; just don't get close enough with the camera to show the problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee Medcalf

Rigel this is looking pretty damn cool... Nice work sir.... keep those updates rolling

Thanks Lee. I like how this is turning out. Of course, I have yet to get to the dreaded neck part.

Treybor · 11th September 2008, 12:21 PM

Looking Great Rigel.

Epiphany · 11th September 2008, 12:53 PM

OK...In the 4th PDF. It says to use the shear and move tools. What is the shear tool and where is it at???????????

Treybor · 11th September 2008, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Epiphany

OK...In the 4th PDF. It says to use the shear and move tools. What is the shear tool and where is it at???????????

Epiphany, Shear is in the "Modify" Menu.

Shearing is making an object slant to one side. A good example is italicized text.

A word "LIKE THIS" Sheared would look "LIKE THIS"

Think of Shear as Move with axial falloff. That is, the strength of the moving influence is not equal across the object, but gradually falls off along a selected axis.

Epiphany · 11th September 2008, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Treybor

Epiphany, Shear is in the "Modify" Menu.

Shearing is making an object slant to one side. A good example is italicized text.

A word "LIKE THIS" Sheared would look "LIKE THIS"

Think of Shear as Move with axial falloff. That is, the strength of the moving influence is not equal across the object, but gradually falls off along a selected axis.

That goodness its not poisonous...It would have bit me if it had been any closer

Thanks...Guess I should learn to look a little better

Treybor · 11th September 2008, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Epiphany

That goodness its not poisonous...It would have bit me if it had been any closer

Thanks...Guess I should learn to look a little better

No worries!

Bells of Freedom · 11th September 2008, 02:20 PM

Wow, looking great, Rigel. Man, now I might have to go to the Serenity tutorial . . .

Rigel · 11th September 2008, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bells of Freedom

Wow, looking great, Rigel. Man, now I might have to go to the Serenity tutorial . . .

*waves his hand slightly*

This is the Serenity tutorial you've been looking for.

Mikala · 11th September 2008, 07:01 PM

I'm waiting to see you dive into the neck section

Treybor · 11th September 2008, 07:04 PM

The neck is the toughest part.

Bells of Freedom · 11th September 2008, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rigel

*waves his hand slightly*

This is the Serenity tutorial you've been looking for.

Well played, my good man. Well played, indeed.

Gordon Robb · 12th September 2008, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Treybor

The neck is the toughest part.

I emphatically second that one. Great learning though.

Look good so far.

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31st August 2008, 01:37 PM	#31
Treybor Asylum Inmate Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 4,338	A) Looks great! B) doesn't have to look EXACTLY like mine.
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31st August 2008, 01:39 PM	#32
Mikala Premiere Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Vancouver Suburbs...Canada HW North Posts: 8,052	Looking mighty pretty Rigel
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31st August 2008, 01:43 PM	#33
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31st August 2008, 05:05 PM	#34
Mook Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Christchurch, New Zealand Posts: 1,556	Looking very nice mate. Where's the subscribe button...? I wouldn't worry about not like identical to Sean's, my stuff never looks identical to my reference either. A little bit of creative license is good for you!
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31st August 2008, 09:32 PM	#36
Rigel Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London (the other one, in Canada) Posts: 17,510	A Ship's Name I came up with a name for my Firefly class freighter. Lady Bug! piaw chong in Chinese Below are three graphics of the ship's name plate. The only difference is the font used on the English name. Up top is a poll. Please vote on which font you prefer and after a week or so, I'll make my final decision on it. Attached Thumbnails
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1st September 2008, 09:52 PM	#37
Rigel Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London (the other one, in Canada) Posts: 17,510	Busy day tomorrow, getting ready to go on a vacation trip for 5 days. Then I'm leaving Wednesday morning and not back until Sunday. Updates will resume once I return.
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2nd September 2008, 12:31 AM	#38
Treybor Asylum Inmate Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 4,338	I like the third
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9th September 2008, 07:23 PM	#39
Rigel Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London (the other one, in Canada) Posts: 17,510	Part 5 - Completed Thank you everyone who voted on the ship's name graphic. The third one is the winner! I was leaning towards that one anyways. I worked through Part 5 today (inbetween studying Cash Flow Statements and going to school). Attached Thumbnails
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9th September 2008, 07:36 PM	#40
Epiphany Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Central Florida Posts: 3,275	Way Cool I have restarted this thing so many times that I get a pop-up from modeller that says "OH NO, Please not again"
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10th September 2008, 06:19 PM	#44
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10th September 2008, 09:31 PM	#46
Rigel Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London (the other one, in Canada) Posts: 17,510	Part 6-A Complete @Raffs - thanks mate! I worked through part 6a this evening. For the regulator platform on the bottom and the indented detail on the top, I cut out those sections, deleted the triangles, rebuilt the polygons, then put the details back in. The overlap between details and triangles on the sides wasn't great enough to warrant this "plastic surgery" in those areas. Also, revisited the retro-rockets and shaved 52 thousand polys out of them. Attached Thumbnails
	__________________ Those who say it can't be done, should stop interrupting those of us who are busy doing it! ------------------------------------------------------------ Other Projects The Universal Joint Beechcraft 2000 airplane LadyBug (Firefly class freighter)

10th September 2008, 10:00 PM	#47
darthviper107 Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 324	That's pretty good. Has anyone ever noticed how the reactor flaps can't actually open? They each have two hinges on a curved hull, to actually flip open--the hinges would pull the flaps in half.

11th September 2008, 03:26 AM	#48
Lee Medcalf Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 707	Rigel this is looking pretty damn cool... Nice work sir.... keep those updates rolling
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11th September 2008, 12:21 PM	#50
Treybor Asylum Inmate Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 4,338	Looking Great Rigel.
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11th September 2008, 12:53 PM	#51
Epiphany Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Central Florida Posts: 3,275	OK...In the 4th PDF. It says to use the shear and move tools. What is the shear tool and where is it at???????????
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11th September 2008, 02:20 PM	#55
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11th September 2008, 07:01 PM	#57
Mikala Premiere Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Vancouver Suburbs...Canada HW North Posts: 8,052	I'm waiting to see you dive into the neck section
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11th September 2008, 07:04 PM	#58
Treybor Asylum Inmate Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 4,338	The neck is the toughest part.
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