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Snowstorm · 29th January 2009, 12:32 AM

Hey guys, its been a while.

I havent had any motivation to do 3d work recently. Was doing a Steampunk piece for the CGTalk challenge, but lost motivation when i started modeling, so yeah, thats come to that.

So, I've decided to do something that interests me a little more - a little organic fantasy work. i'll just let it go and see what happens, I just want to start completing images again. This one, hopefully will be done in time for submission to Exotique.

Modeled in Modo over... I think abt 3-4 h over a few days.

Gordon Robb · 29th January 2009, 02:05 AM

Truly a beautiful piece of work.

MattMan · 29th January 2009, 03:19 AM

I agree, the intricacies in the design are really well done and I for one am looking forward to seeing more

bmckain · 29th January 2009, 05:42 AM

I like it, a lot. Anxious to see it completed.

Rigel · 29th January 2009, 06:58 AM

That is a beautiful piece of work.

Elowan · 29th January 2009, 08:32 AM

Is nice.

keithd203 · 29th January 2009, 10:17 AM

A beautiful start, very much looking forward to seeing this progress!

Snowstorm · 30th January 2009, 12:57 AM

Thanks for the comments.

I'll go back and add a little more detail to the crown later, but for now I want to establish the rest of the figure first. Today's progress is...

the Head! Not including the ears. Maybe I'll do that later.

Note quite the best topology I know, there's a lot of odd pinching here which makes the face not quite so smooth. However I'm fine with that - i'll likely paint over it in Photoshop later in the final image if its too obvious.

nightchild · 30th January 2009, 05:14 AM

nice can't wait to see it completed

Rigel · 30th January 2009, 05:16 AM

She looks very regal.

Snowstorm · 30th January 2009, 07:31 AM

Really?

If she does then I have accomplished what I set out to do with the face

This next one is after a lot of tweaking and some more modeling on different parts. Don't be afraid to criticise anything you feel isnt good enough - thats the way i improve.

btw, in the final image her head is viewed from the side.

BillS · 30th January 2009, 11:07 AM

Anyone else find it ironic that Snowstorm is making his own Ice Queen

Nothing to crit from me.

Electricmoose · 30th January 2009, 11:36 AM

Hello

Stunning!

I am new to 3D. using lightwave.

love the crown's details amazing. i'm dabbling in face modeling. you made this all from scratch right? do you draws the design first or just start in LW?

I noticed a term you used "Pinching" this is when 5 polygons meat a point or vertices in sub patch mode?

look forward to see the finished babe... i mean ice queen.

Bruce

Snowstorm · 30th January 2009, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillS

Anyone else find it ironic that Snowstorm is making his own Ice Queen

LOL! I didnt see that coming.

Yup I made it from scratch, with some rough facial features in my mind. I used reference photos only for the spacing of the features (none of the features will line up with my refs).

I actually did have something more "queenish" in mind. This one actually looks a little young, but nevermind - I shall see what I can get away with. If it doesnt work in the image then I can always come back and change it.

Well... pinching... can usually be found by doing that - yes, you'll get a pinch at a point where lots of subpatch polygons meet. However, you can also get a similar "bump" if you will when a veeeeery long curved subpatch meets a short one, or the edges arent aligned properly. I think if you have proper topology there will be a lot less pinching, but I don't want to spend the time perfecting it all now.

Snowstorm · 1st February 2009, 11:49 PM

She progresses slowly but surely.

And thanks for the newsletter feature btw.

Rob · 2nd February 2009, 12:20 AM

looking great snowstorm.. my only crit would be that it looks to me like your forhead curves back to early.. the only sections of it that really 'stand' out to me.. but again that's also personal choice

Snowstorm · 2nd February 2009, 01:58 AM

Thanks. I've made the forehead a little steeper this time.

This is this afternoon's progress.

Oh, and dont mind the imperfection on the back of the head - thats going to be covered by hair anyway :P

Acidstorm · 2nd February 2009, 02:19 AM

That is looking really awesome so far!

Gordon Robb · 2nd February 2009, 02:46 AM

Nice work mate. Looking good.

Hunter · 2nd February 2009, 03:26 AM

Amazing crown.

Rob · 2nd February 2009, 04:34 AM

just noticed it.. could be the angle/material.. but snow, what's with the dint below the eye on the nose? here.. circle is around it.. the image next to it is me trying to work out the flow.. with a quick sketch over the top of your image.. which shows that it's definantly flowing right.. least in my mind.. anyway just that little dent caught my eye.. like i said likely just angle/lighting.

Snowstorm · 2nd February 2009, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob

just noticed it.. could be the angle/material.. but snow, what's with the dint below the eye on the nose? here.. circle is around it.. the image next to it is me trying to work out the flow.. with a quick sketch over the top of your image.. which shows that it's definantly flowing right.. least in my mind.. anyway just that little dent caught my eye.. like i said likely just angle/lighting.

Ah, that would actually be where the eye meets the nose.

Rigel · 2nd February 2009, 07:28 AM

The one thing I noticed in the side view of the completed head and collar is that the neck angles back. The neck normally curves forward slightly; her head appears to be sitting too far back in relation to her shoulders.

If you go any lower, I'll have to put a nudity warning on your title.

Snowstorm · 4th February 2009, 06:38 AM

Nudity warning? On a Snowstorm thread? Not a chance :P

I'm not going to model any bits that I dont need - I dont have the time atm. And I dont plan on doing any nude studies in the near future either.

Anyway, been busy and a bit of a rough patch of modeling. Hand's been difficult, but I think I've gotten most of it down, now just to finish up, do her legs, then its on to the clothing. So much left to do.

Whats left: Still got to finish detailing her crown, do her throne, do a little bit of the background, then texture, light, render in high res, and paint over.

Wow. looks like i've got quite a bit to go. Time to spend more time on this.

Anyway, only 1 wip shot today. Moved the head forward a bit as suggested. Hand is beside the face because i'm using the face as a size reference.

Rigel · 4th February 2009, 07:36 AM

The hand is starting to shape up well. Overall this is a brilliant piece of work.

Snowstorm · 6th February 2009, 06:52 AM

still progressing, though a little slower than expected.

Rigel · 6th February 2009, 08:04 AM

Take your time and get it right. No point in rushing it.

And you are getting it right!

Snowstorm · 18th February 2009, 01:02 AM

I'm back!

Finally, after days of laziness, and also some enforced internet silence I'm working on the Ice Queen again. The last few days without internet access have been maddening to say the least.

So, yes, progress is slower than ever, and I feel like I will miss the Exotique deadline, but it doesnt matter. My main goal is to finish this piece no matter what. And when I say finish it it has to be a polished and properly professional piece.

Acidstorm · 18th February 2009, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowstorm

I'm back!

Finally, after days of laziness, and also some enforced internet silence I'm working on the Ice Queen again. The last few days without internet access have been maddening to say the least.

So, yes, progress is slower than ever, and I feel like I will miss the Exotique deadline, but it doesnt matter. My main goal is to finish this piece no matter what. And when I say finish it it has to be a polished and properly professional piece.

It's looking well on it's way to being professional and polished. I have the same mindset with my project, as I'm still learning as I go, things are taking me a lot longer than expected. At least it's a hobby for me so I don't have any deadlines.

Just keep pluggin away!

Tenement 01 · 18th February 2009, 03:07 AM

Looking good. Can't wait to see how she turns out.

29th January 2009, 12:32 AM	#1
Snowstorm Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 33	Fantasy - Ice Queen Hey guys, its been a while. I havent had any motivation to do 3d work recently. Was doing a Steampunk piece for the CGTalk challenge, but lost motivation when i started modeling, so yeah, thats come to that. So, I've decided to do something that interests me a little more - a little organic fantasy work. i'll just let it go and see what happens, I just want to start completing images again. This one, hopefully will be done in time for submission to Exotique. Modeled in Modo over... I think abt 3-4 h over a few days. Attached Thumbnails
	__________________ Arctic Wolf WIP Flawed Logic WIP Ice Queen WIP

29th January 2009, 02:05 AM	#2
Gordon Robb Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 3,496	Truly a beautiful piece of work.
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29th January 2009, 03:19 AM	#3
MattMan Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 1,818	I agree, the intricacies in the design are really well done and I for one am looking forward to seeing more
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29th January 2009, 05:42 AM	#4
bmckain Wire Junkie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boise, ID. USA Posts: 10,054	I like it, a lot. Anxious to see it completed.
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29th January 2009, 06:58 AM	#5
Rigel Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London (the other one, in Canada) Posts: 10,422	That is a beautiful piece of work.
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29th January 2009, 08:32 AM	#6
Elowan Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,457	Is nice.
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29th January 2009, 10:17 AM	#7
keithd203 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 190	A beautiful start, very much looking forward to seeing this progress!

30th January 2009, 12:57 AM	#8
Snowstorm Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 33	Thanks for the comments. I'll go back and add a little more detail to the crown later, but for now I want to establish the rest of the figure first. Today's progress is... the Head! Not including the ears. Maybe I'll do that later. Note quite the best topology I know, there's a lot of odd pinching here which makes the face not quite so smooth. However I'm fine with that - i'll likely paint over it in Photoshop later in the final image if its too obvious. Attached Thumbnails
	__________________ Arctic Wolf WIP Flawed Logic WIP Ice Queen WIP

30th January 2009, 05:14 AM	#9
nightchild Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 6	nice can't wait to see it completed

30th January 2009, 05:16 AM	#10
Rigel Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London (the other one, in Canada) Posts: 10,422	She looks very regal.
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30th January 2009, 07:31 AM	#11
Snowstorm Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 33	Really? If she does then I have accomplished what I set out to do with the face This next one is after a lot of tweaking and some more modeling on different parts. Don't be afraid to criticise anything you feel isnt good enough - thats the way i improve. btw, in the final image her head is viewed from the side. Attached Thumbnails
	__________________ Arctic Wolf WIP Flawed Logic WIP Ice Queen WIP

30th January 2009, 11:07 AM	#12
BillS Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Belleville, Ontario Posts: 7,057	Anyone else find it ironic that Snowstorm is making his own Ice Queen Nothing to crit from me.
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30th January 2009, 11:36 AM	#13
Electricmoose Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 26	Hello Stunning! I am new to 3D. using lightwave. love the crown's details amazing. i'm dabbling in face modeling. you made this all from scratch right? do you draws the design first or just start in LW? I noticed a term you used "Pinching" this is when 5 polygons meat a point or vertices in sub patch mode? look forward to see the finished babe... i mean ice queen. Bruce

1st February 2009, 11:49 PM	#15
Snowstorm Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 33	She progresses slowly but surely. And thanks for the newsletter feature btw. Attached Thumbnails
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2nd February 2009, 12:20 AM	#16
Rob Premiere Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 928	looking great snowstorm.. my only crit would be that it looks to me like your forhead curves back to early.. the only sections of it that really 'stand' out to me.. but again that's also personal choice
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2nd February 2009, 01:58 AM	#17
Snowstorm Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 33	Thanks. I've made the forehead a little steeper this time. This is this afternoon's progress. Oh, and dont mind the imperfection on the back of the head - thats going to be covered by hair anyway :P Attached Thumbnails
	__________________ Arctic Wolf WIP Flawed Logic WIP Ice Queen WIP

2nd February 2009, 02:19 AM	#18
Acidstorm Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Paso Robles, CA Posts: 184	That is looking really awesome so far!

2nd February 2009, 02:46 AM	#19
Gordon Robb Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 3,496	Nice work mate. Looking good.
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2nd February 2009, 03:26 AM	#20
Hunter Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 59	Amazing crown.
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2nd February 2009, 04:34 AM	#21
Rob Premiere Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 928	just noticed it.. could be the angle/material.. but snow, what's with the dint below the eye on the nose? here.. circle is around it.. the image next to it is me trying to work out the flow.. with a quick sketch over the top of your image.. which shows that it's definantly flowing right.. least in my mind.. anyway just that little dent caught my eye.. like i said likely just angle/lighting. Attached Thumbnails
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2nd February 2009, 07:28 AM	#23
Rigel Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London (the other one, in Canada) Posts: 10,422	The one thing I noticed in the side view of the completed head and collar is that the neck angles back. The neck normally curves forward slightly; her head appears to be sitting too far back in relation to her shoulders. If you go any lower, I'll have to put a nudity warning on your title.
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4th February 2009, 06:38 AM	#24
Snowstorm Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 33	Nudity warning? On a Snowstorm thread? Not a chance :P I'm not going to model any bits that I dont need - I dont have the time atm. And I dont plan on doing any nude studies in the near future either. Anyway, been busy and a bit of a rough patch of modeling. Hand's been difficult, but I think I've gotten most of it down, now just to finish up, do her legs, then its on to the clothing. So much left to do. Whats left: Still got to finish detailing her crown, do her throne, do a little bit of the background, then texture, light, render in high res, and paint over. Wow. looks like i've got quite a bit to go. Time to spend more time on this. Anyway, only 1 wip shot today. Moved the head forward a bit as suggested. Hand is beside the face because i'm using the face as a size reference. Attached Thumbnails
	__________________ Arctic Wolf WIP Flawed Logic WIP Ice Queen WIP

4th February 2009, 07:36 AM	#25
Rigel Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London (the other one, in Canada) Posts: 10,422	The hand is starting to shape up well. Overall this is a brilliant piece of work.
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6th February 2009, 06:52 AM	#26
Snowstorm Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 33	still progressing, though a little slower than expected. Attached Thumbnails
	__________________ Arctic Wolf WIP Flawed Logic WIP Ice Queen WIP

6th February 2009, 08:04 AM	#27
Rigel Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London (the other one, in Canada) Posts: 10,422	Take your time and get it right. No point in rushing it. And you are getting it right!
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18th February 2009, 01:02 AM	#28
Snowstorm Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 33	I'm back! Finally, after days of laziness, and also some enforced internet silence I'm working on the Ice Queen again. The last few days without internet access have been maddening to say the least. So, yes, progress is slower than ever, and I feel like I will miss the Exotique deadline, but it doesnt matter. My main goal is to finish this piece no matter what. And when I say finish it it has to be a polished and properly professional piece. Attached Thumbnails
	__________________ Arctic Wolf WIP Flawed Logic WIP Ice Queen WIP

18th February 2009, 03:07 AM	#30
Tenement 01 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 2,074	Looking good. Can't wait to see how she turns out.

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